Jezyorkshire Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Got a new toy, Zoom HQ2hd so thought i wud try it out, and as have recently posted in old thread about pain issues any advice on my technique is welcome, thanks, Jez http://youtu.be/pCXm3cCdn5M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbassist Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Great job Jez, your intonation is superb and I love your lines, very cool video! My only thought was you might want to have the bass angled a bit more open (facing forward) which may mean you can keep your left wrist straighter. It looked a bit too side on to me.... Perhaps also work on using more arm weight in the right hand, but really I though it looked very solid and your playing is fantastic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jezyorkshire Posted March 28, 2014 Author Share Posted March 28, 2014 wow, thanks Geoff, wasnt expecting that, i agree with the arm weight thing, and a bit more to the front would prob be good, where abouts in leeds are you Geoff? i was thinking of having you check my technique to be on the safe side and have now got a bow so could do with some advice there, thanks, Jez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatgoogle Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Id make the bass a bit more vertical. You'll find in the future when your going into thumb position that you have no where to move to get into position and out again. Also this will give you room to raise your left elbow and get a better left hand position. Keep your elbow up and it will keep your playing up. Also look into alternating your right hand fingers, 1st, 2nd, 1st, 2nd. It's more economic and you'll be able to get those tasty ghost notes in there to add rhythmic variation. Otherwise sounds amazing and a good feel. Get a few lessons and you'll be well on your way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jezyorkshire Posted March 28, 2014 Author Share Posted March 28, 2014 Thanks fatgoole, do you mean raise the height of the bass? (more endpin out) it does feel good at this height but it may be better a little higher. i have issues with alternating my right hand fingers as i much prefer the sound of my first finger, but i agree, i do use ghost notes but i think i do them with my first finger and deadening the string with my left hand, i usually find it difficult not to use them lol so find it surprising that there arent any in vid! i was probably trying to be disciplined as i knew it was gonna go on youtube ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jezyorkshire Posted March 28, 2014 Author Share Posted March 28, 2014 Have just checked playing position, Geoff, just had a look at your vid regarding standing and i am too side on and fatgoogle have tried endpin out another inch and that is better, will try to address these as im practicing, thanks, Jez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbie Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Great job fella! I agree with the comments. I'd say if you try to lift your elbow (i.e. dont let it drop), it'll be easier to straighten the wrist. It's amazing how much more hand strength you'll have by sorting that little thing out. The rest is practice and building up stamina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jezyorkshire Posted March 29, 2014 Author Share Posted March 29, 2014 Thanks Rabbie, i know i have been rushing to get back to where i was 2 years ago when i last played, need to slow down lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatgoogle Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 I meant more say to push the bass more vertical rather then at the sloping angle it is on in the video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRev Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 You're getting a really nice tone - makes me want to splurge on a set of spiro weichs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakenewmanbass Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 However you do it will depend on your physiology, the bass, your posture etc, but as Geoff says you need a slightly flatter LH wrist to avoid working those tendons over the bend. It's not critical but it makes ergonomic sense, and will increase efficiency. (This might sound crazy but being loose in the hips and knees can add a lot of support into your upper body position... it's all part of a bigger picture) Your finger positions, movement, spacing, support etc are all really good... you could maybe raise your elbow a fraction. Nice tone, feel and lines. Great! A couple of lessons with Geoff will give you real time in depth explanations of all this stuff... go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jezyorkshire Posted March 29, 2014 Author Share Posted March 29, 2014 Fatgoogle, i thought that it is better to have it slopin rather than too vertical to make use of left hand arm weight to assist in finger pressure? Thanks Rev, i was surprised how good it sounded from in front of bass on recording, Jake,i know what you mean with the loose cos i keep noticing im tensing my feet badly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gypsyjazzer Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 My 2 cents worth Jez: Sounds good. You have a good jazz feel. Good notes. Fingering looks good. Most importantly (For me anyway) I was taping my feet--very good sign. Just for the record have you noticed that some of the top line jazzer's on quite a few instruments have unorthodox techniques--so there is no correct way in the true sense of the word ---( I'm not saying that for the classical guys). If I only had the musical genius of Django!!! with his two workable fingers for his solo work with his left hand---- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakenewmanbass Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 I think it's worth pointing out that DB can leave you injury prone, so while it's true that there is no 'one correct way' it certainly is true that risk of injury should be minimised. I've been doing this a fair old time now now and I've known a few guys get tendonitis over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbassist Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 [quote name='Jezyorkshire' timestamp='1396046324' post='2409529'] wow, thanks Geoff, wasnt expecting that, i agree with the arm weight thing, and a bit more to the front would prob be good, where abouts in leeds are you Geoff? i was thinking of having you check my technique to be on the safe side and have now got a bow so could do with some advice there, thanks, Jez [/quote] Hey Jez, Im in Armley, feel free to give me a shout if you fancy a lesson. I'm not doing regular private teaching at the moment, but am sure I could find a spot if you did want some help. I think you are really on the right track though. Its great you get what I mean about the position of the bass to reduce the angle in the wrist. Good luck with your practice mate, cheers Geoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbie Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 [quote name='jakenewmanbass' timestamp='1396118203' post='2410162'] I think it's worth pointing out that DB can leave you injury prone, so while it's true that there is no 'one correct way' it certainly is true that risk of injury should be minimised. I've been doing this a fair old time now now and I've known a few guys get tendonitis over the years. [/quote] +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jezyorkshire Posted March 29, 2014 Author Share Posted March 29, 2014 http://www.bapam.org.uk/documents/1_Dont_cramp_your_style_web.pdf have downloaded this, looks helpful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbass Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Thanks for sharing. I wish there were a "like" button here. From a complete novice: is your wrist is a little bent inwards? would it help to move your stance a bit - boogie to the beat? Lovely sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jezyorkshire Posted April 2, 2014 Author Share Posted April 2, 2014 Thanks Timbass, technique is a work in progress, been rushing on some things, i think some of my issues are due to a frozen shoulder i had a few years ago, im having a rest for a week after this week while my bass is at luthiers, im gonna get it to play a bit easier in half/first position so an adjustment on fingerboard relief and do some exercises i was given when i had physio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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