krispn Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 I'm really happy with my DD p bass (with added j pick up) but wondered if anyone has tried to swap the lakland bridge for a badass? I think I may prefer the BSII/BAIII as I think it looks more sleek! Quote
EssentialTension Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 I can't say I've tried it because, to be honest, (1) I think the Lakland bridge is fine and (2) I think the Badass bridge is pug ugly, and - in your case - (3) you're really happy with your DD P bass. So why are you even considering it? Quote
cocco Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 I don't see what the point would be. The Lakland bridge is bomb proof and more attractive. Plus mass wise I doubt there's a lot in it. Quote
cocco Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 Also you'd loose the string though/over option. Quote
Sean Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 [quote name='cocco' timestamp='1397676399' post='2426432'] I don't see what the point would be. The Lakland bridge is bomb proof and more attractive. Plus mass wise I doubt there's a lot in it. [/quote] +1000 Quote
krispn Posted April 16, 2014 Author Posted April 16, 2014 I like the aesthetic of it and I've been a huge fan of the BA in the past. While the Lakland bridge 'fits' on their own brand I prefer the BA on a fender style bass. No doubt the Lakland is an improvement over the BBOT but it's my personal pref. Well I appreciate the candor I'm more interested in hearing if the bridge would fit into the existing holes. Quote
ikay Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 No, a BA (any version) would require new screw holes. Quote
Grangur Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) [quote name='ikay' timestamp='1397679577' post='2426482'] No, a BA (any version) would require new screw holes. [/quote] What is the distance between centres of the Lakland screws? The BA3 screws are at 20mm centres Edited April 16, 2014 by Grangur Quote
White Cloud Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 No offence, but to to the casual observer this would appear to be an utterly pointless money burning exercise. The stock Lakland bridge is an excellent bit of hardware. Quote
cocco Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 [quote name='Grangur' timestamp='1397680740' post='2426509'] What is the distance between centres of the Lakland screws? The BA3 screws are at 20mm centres [/quote] The Lakland bridge only has 3 mounts compared to the 5 on the Badass. I don't have a BA to measure atm but I don't think it would be a simple job. Quote
ikay Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 [quote name='Grangur' timestamp='1397680740' post='2426509'] What is the distance between centres of the Lakland screws? [/quote] Lakland screw centres are 35mm apart. As well as the lateral difference in screw centres, the screw holes themselves are in a completely different position relative to the saddles compared with a BA. Pic attached for comparison. [attachment=160549:Bridge comparison.jpg] Quote
Musicman20 Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 One of the things I like with Lakland are their bridges. A truly unique bridge! Quote
EssentialTension Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 And if you do this you will devalue the Lakland and make it less sellable. Quote
Dingus Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 Another thing to consider is that , from memory ( I've never directly compared them ) , the base plate on a Badass may well be a bit thicker than the Lakland bridge. The Badass is certainly has a higher profile than a standard Fender bridge. That means if you swap to a Badass then you may have to either shim the neck or countersink the new bridge to get the action as low on your bass. Swapping the perfectly good Lakland bridge to a Badass would be an extremely pointless exercise. The Badass is a good bridge in its' own right , but the Lakland is also excellent in so much as it works well and sounds good. What more could you want ? Also, as other folks have mentioned , that oval bridge is in effect Lakland's trademark. It would be silly to deface your bass by removing it for no discernible advantage. Quote
Grangur Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 [quote name='cocco' timestamp='1397713318' post='2426652'] The Lakland bridge only has 3 mounts compared to the 5 on the Badass. I don't have a BA to measure atm but I don't think it would be a simple job. [/quote] The BA3 has 3 screw positions, 20mm apart. Yet if the Lakland holes are 35 apart, then you'd have to drill holes to fit the BA. (I do have a BA3, so it's easy for me to tell.) Quote
EmmettC Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 It's going to be a bit of work, but should be reversable and if you want to do it then you should. If we all did the sensible thing all the time the world would be a boring place. Quote
krispn Posted April 18, 2014 Author Posted April 18, 2014 Nice to see a bit of passion about the topic Quote
SubsonicSimpleton Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 If it isn't broken, then you need to ask yourself why are you trying to fix it? Quote
Sean Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 [quote name='SubsonicSimpleton' timestamp='1397834563' post='2427795'] If it isn't broken, then you need to ask yourself why are you trying to fix it? [/quote] The BBOT wasn't broken but until someone came along and made it better... Quote
cocco Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 (edited) [quote name='Sean' timestamp='1397835297' post='2427802'] The BBOT wasn't broken but until someone came along and made it better... [/quote] But the Lakland bridge is already an improved version of the BBOT. Edited April 18, 2014 by cocco Quote
Graham Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 [quote name='krispn' timestamp='1397673317' post='2426383'] I'm really happy with my DD p bass (with added j pick up) [/quote] Glad it's still working well for you chief :-) Quote
White Cloud Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 Putting the topic aside I would add that the Lakland DD is a superb P bass...it must be even sweeter with the added jazz pup! Quote
SubsonicSimpleton Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 [quote name='Sean' timestamp='1397835297' post='2427802'] The BBOT wasn't broken but until someone came along and made it better... [/quote] Define better. Quote
Dingus Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 I'm not a big fan of the BBOT. It sounds O.K, I suppose, but in my experience the saddles are prone to movement and constantly slip on it, and it needs readjusting every time you change strings. If you are going to use a BBOT, at least make it one with tracks on the baseplate for the saddles to sit in. Other more substantial alternatives such as the Badass ( or Lakland!) offer more stability and better clarity to the overall sound, in my experience at least. My old Jazz Bass sounded loads better when I had a Badass installed , especially in the upper registers, from what I remember. . Quote
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