Perry Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 (edited) What do you put your amp/cab on to raise the height? Mini platform ladders look handy. Edited May 13, 2014 by Perry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorks5stringer Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 My cab...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Posted May 13, 2014 Author Share Posted May 13, 2014 Ooops, my bad. I meant speaker cab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Corona pop bottle crates. Every bubble's passed it's fizz-icle! I used to use Cresta crates but it made my sound too frothy, man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismuzz Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 (edited) [quote name='yorks5stringer' timestamp='1399933670' post='2449225'] My cab...! [/quote] [quote name='Perry' timestamp='1399945102' post='2449270'] Ooops, my bad. I meant speaker cab. [/quote] Another cab Edited May 13, 2014 by chrismuzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Rock Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Get a flight case for your cab, then use it as a stand at gigs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Raising your cab off the ground is never a great idea because you lose the extra low-end efficiency you get from coupling with the floor. If your problem is hearing yourself, tilting the cab up slightly so that the sound is directed to your ears is a better option IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Rotten Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Ampeg and Hartke do kickback combos. I have a Hartke and my Dad has an ampeg and being able to tilt it back makes a huge difference if you are standing and playing close to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamPodmore Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 I usually use a table and just throw a black sheet or something over it to make it look a little bit better. Liam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monckyman Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Good quality keyboard stand is perfect. I've had my Ampeg 4x10 and amp sat happily on one for many gigs. The tilt back amp stands are useful too. As stated above you may lose some ultra low end because of loss of the coupling effect with the floor, I happen to think that's no bad thing in most venues and helps clear some mud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rOB Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 An amp stand? There are plenty of options for different heights and amounts of tilt. Personally I go for one that tilts quite a bit but doesn't have much height. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Guitarist ( or on top of his amp)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 [quote name='stevie' timestamp='1400056183' post='2450183'] Raising your cab off the ground is never a great idea because you lose the extra low-end efficiency you get from coupling with the floor. If your problem is hearing yourself, tilting the cab up slightly so that the sound is directed to your ears is a better option IMO. [/quote] Yep...agree, not something I ever want to do, Positioning of the cab is the one thing and you don't have to get too close to other big sound sources. For example, I don't want the keys stack near me... ... and then I learn to play with a sound that doesn't need so much bass. The bass never lacks bottom but some ppl just don't give themselves much chance by running or wanting too much bass and then having situations where they have to get rid of it. If your sound has clarity and the band are sensible with their EQ, hearing yourself should n't be an issue either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_Bass Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 [quote name='stevie' timestamp='1400056183' post='2450183'] Raising your cab off the ground is never a great idea because you lose the extra low-end efficiency you get from coupling with the floor. If your problem is hearing yourself, tilting the cab up slightly so that the sound is directed to your ears is a better option IMO. [/quote] I lift my cab off the floor to prevent this coupling from happening. I have subs up front on the PA, i don't need any more sub-bass up on stage to muddy things up and mess with the drum mics. I also prefer to hear my sound tight and defined, any trouser flapping bass is EQ'ed at taste. Different views on the same subject Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanAxe Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Yep, another cab. For my skinny-string, the amp sits on top of its flight-case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 I use one of these when I need to hear better on a small stage - great for the money: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stand-Stagg-GAS-3-2-Monitor-Amplifier-Amp-Speaker-Floor-Stand-Folding-00693-/191154473577?pt=UK_MusicalInstr_Access_RL&hash=item2c81b1ca69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 [quote name='Ghost_Bass' timestamp='1400155408' post='2451245'] I lift my cab off the floor to prevent this coupling from happening. I have subs up front on the PA, i don't need any more sub-bass up on stage to muddy things up and mess with the drum mics. I also prefer to hear my sound tight and defined, any trouser flapping bass is EQ'ed at taste. Different views on the same subject [/quote] Can't your eq deal with the excess bass? Having a cab on the floor shouldn't produce excess sub bass or stop you getting a tight and defined sound. Virtually all bass cabs have been designed to be used on the floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer of the Bass Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Putting the cab on a chair really seems to help with avoiding low end feedback on double bass, especially with hollow wooden stages. I guess that's a special case though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Well if it works, fair enough. I suspect that judicious use of the bass control could have the same result, but DB and hollow wooden stages complicate matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer of the Bass Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 [quote name='stevie' timestamp='1400162035' post='2451336'] Well if it works, fair enough. I suspect that judicious use of the bass control could have the same result, but DB and hollow wooden stages complicate matters. [/quote] I've often wondered if a tiny version of the Gramma pad for the spike to sit on would help with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_Bass Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 [quote name='stevie' timestamp='1400160732' post='2451316'] Can't your eq deal with the excess bass? Having a cab on the floor shouldn't produce excess sub bass or stop you getting a tight and defined sound. Virtually all bass cabs have been designed to be used on the floor. [/quote] Unless you have a full parametric EQ on your amp you can't dial back the lower freqs that come with floor reinforcement, most amps only offer parametric on the mids. Luckily i can get away with it when i use the Thunderfunk but not with the F1X. Anyway raising the cab alwways helps me hear the bass sound better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassTractor Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 (edited) Milk crate alternative: From eight bits of the stuff from the picture below, weld a little fourlegged frame "table" that will fit nicely over your cab during transport, and will protect its corners. Glue foam rubber on its top so the cab will not slide off during the gig, and/or make sure the cab's feet will fit within the frame. Can't describe it better with my English. Edit: have one of the legs somewhat shorter and weld a length adjustment screw thingie on it. I'm not too fond of the coupling either. Then again, I'm not preoccupied with the lowest frequencies more than once in a while, and find that most bands I've heard have too little clarity and too much boominess. [url="http://s1170.photobucket.com/user/basstractor1/media/vinkeljern_zps257bba42.jpg.html"][/url] Edited May 15, 2014 by BassTractor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 It's well known that Keith Richards used to use Mesa cabs just as shelf for his Fender Twins. Pricey amp stand but looks cool on stage! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 http://www.markbass.it/product_detail.php?id=61 It folds flat for carrying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_Bass Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 [quote name='owen' timestamp='1401141036' post='2460590'] [url="http://www.markbass.it/product_detail.php?id=61"]http://www.markbass....etail.php?id=61[/url] It folds flat for carrying. [/quote] Only works if you have enough distance from the cab to you in order to get enough angle to reach your ears. In most situations (pub gigs) we are playing with our backs agaist the cab. A table/chair/stand will be needed. I have a couple of these: I use one like shown in the pic to raise my S12T so i can get the top driver/tweeter to ear level: the other one i use with one arm taller than the other so i can get my Promethean at an angle: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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