waynepunkdude Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 I play in a 3 piece cover band, when the guitarist solos it sounds a bit empty, was thinking about getting an Octaver, play an octave higher and set it an octave lower to fill it out a bit, would this work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Would think so. Alternatively, 8 string bass, great for root notes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionn Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 [quote name='waynepunkdude' timestamp='1400857957' post='2457656'] I play in a 3 piece cover band, when the guitarist solos it sounds a bit empty, was thinking about getting an Octaver, play an octave higher and set it an octave lower to fill it out a bit, would this work? [/quote] Definitely. It's something that I need to do in my band also. I play around the middle of the neck, with a wedge of low octave and a bit of high octave dialed in too, for a really broad and full sound. I'd recommend an octaver that can deliver both octave up and down. I use the EHX Micro Pog. Fantastic piece of kit, and the best tracking octaver available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0175westwood29 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 this def works, i use the cog effects octave for this to fatten up things as well as kicking in a second dirt pedal. andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byo Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 There are many Octave pedals available in the market. Do you know what type of sound your are looking for? I have various of them just because of that reason... EBS Octabass has a really nice clean octave that tracks really well up on the higher notes, Boss OC-2 has a really nice presence and organic feel to it, Aguilar Octamizer is really subby and you can control the tone of the clean and octave too, and the list goes on. As Fionn mentions, you have polyphonic octavers like the EHX POG and Micro POG too. Just put a nice drive/fuzz after the octave pedal and you will sound killer! Just depends what sound you are after. Byron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisnameistaken Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Adding another octave definitely makes things thicker but generally in a three piece when the guitarist solos it's more about making more noise. Typically you'd want the drummer playing the ride and the bassist playing something more legato along with it, so you essentially do away with whatever silence there was before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepbass5 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 [quote name='thisnameistaken' timestamp='1400877583' post='2457908'] Typically you'd want the drummer playing the ride and the bassist playing something more legato along with it, so you essentially do away with whatever silence there was before. [/quote] I would do this, actually step back and choose something complementry but supprtive, but my OC-2 is the last pedal i would let go, can be over done though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisnameistaken Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 [quote name='deepbass5' timestamp='1400877896' post='2457913'] I would do this, actually step back and choose something complementry but supprtive, but my OC-2 is the last pedal i would let go, can be over done though[/quote] I have seven effects on my board and three of them are OC-2s. To be fair two of the others are sort-of multis (M9 and an Octavius Squeezer) and one of the OC-2s is modded. But thinking like a musician generally comes before turning pedals on, even when I really like pedals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 [quote name='thisnameistaken' timestamp='1400879744' post='2457935'] I have seven effects on my board and three of them are OC-2s. [/quote] Good lad Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byo Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 [quote name='thisnameistaken' timestamp='1400879744' post='2457935'] I have seven effects on my board and three of them are OC-2s. [/quote] Oh my... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanAxe Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 As someone who plays guitar in a guitar/bass/drums covers trio, I see it as [u]my[/u] job to make sure there isn't a big hole in the sound when I take a lead break. I use a combination of the following:[list] [*]playing in a lower register than the original [*]double-stops [*]triple-stops (or 'short chords') [*]flat-picking between chord strums [*]favouring the neck pickup [*]compression [*]analog delay [*]light overdrive [*]boosting volume rather than gain [/list] In some songs, the bass player will play a busier part during the lead break, but otherwise all I ask and expect of him is a conventional bass guitar sound. This works well for country and a lot of pop, but as ever YMMV... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamlunt Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 I'm currently using the MXR Bass Octave. Its great for traditional octave sounds and even synth sounds. I sometimes use it completely wet with no dry signal, some RAT distortion and a flanger or something to get gnarly funky synth sounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Remember that it's not always necessary to fill a sonic space. Whilst I use some of the above techniques in my trio setup, sometimes it's just nice to hear the guitar solo breathe a bit. Don't always assume if there's a space, you fill it, judge it on a case by case basis. A classic case of "leave some holes, some music might fall out" Don't believe? Watch Pino with John Mayer trio, loads of space, he nails it. Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynepunkdude Posted May 25, 2014 Author Share Posted May 25, 2014 Thanks for the advice guys, i will take the technique points on board but i will also get an octaver as that way I get a nice new pedal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Rock Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 (edited) I've been checking out different octavers on Yt this morning. This one amuses me - you can tell by the settings that as soon as he switches it on, it will make no noise. Switch>silence>hasty tweak. And that's the one he uploads to YT :-D Surely that's a key part of preparation? (Apologies if you're a Basschatter, but it is quite funny) http://youtu.be/k3wlIVxC0UQ Edited May 25, 2014 by Roland Rock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Apple Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 I had the same idea, but my Ag Oct only goes down and you need up too. I heard something called an Organiser, don't know who makes it, but it sounded pretty good. Happy Jack has one. In the meantime I use chorus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Earthquaker Devices make the Organizer, very cool pedal! Always buy Octavers, up, down, whatever....they're great :-D Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynepunkdude Posted May 25, 2014 Author Share Posted May 25, 2014 I would prefer a clean one, what would you suggest? Cheaper the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynepunkdude Posted May 25, 2014 Author Share Posted May 25, 2014 Also is there one that goes up rather than down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molan Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Having tried quite a few I settled on the Aguilar Ocatmizer. I've owned a couple of OC2's but found their range too limited and tracking wasn't great. Really nice sound but quite hard work to get on with. The EBS was better but I find the Aguilar by far the most flexible and tracking seems great. I use it on every gig at some point or other. At the moment I'm generally using it for a synthy drone on a couple of songs and it's really good for this as it'll hold the lower note for a long time without breaking up (something the OC2 isn't great at in my experience). I've heard some good things about the MXR Octave Deluxe and people seem to like the little mid-boost switch it has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Apple Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 [quote name='waynepunkdude' timestamp='1401046090' post='2459531'] I would prefer a clean one, what would you suggest? Cheaper the better. [/quote] Don't get the Aquilar, the octave filter gets quite dirty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynepunkdude Posted May 25, 2014 Author Share Posted May 25, 2014 Had a look at the organiser it goes up but the sound is weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 I don't think you want the Organizer, it's a bit more specialised, it has lag control and does +2 & -2 as well. Look at the EHX POG or the COG T-65, definitely look at the latter.....currently waiting on mine Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0175westwood29 Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 [quote name='Sibob' timestamp='1401051029' post='2459614'] I don't think you want the Organizer, it's a bit more specialised, it has lag control and does +2 & -2 as well. Look at the EHX POG or the COG T-65, definitely look at the latter.....currently waiting on mine Si [/quote] As i said above only good things to say about the t65 from cog mine doesnt have the loop part which makes ieven better! The filter is awesome aswell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Mines got a special loop Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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