cclowend Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Still working on this quote thing and abbreviations BTW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jus Lukin Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) - Edited February 19, 2022 by Jus Lukin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftybassman392 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 [quote name='cclowend' timestamp='1403083201' post='2479499'] Still working on this quote thing and abbreviations BTW. [/quote] There are some issues with IE. Writing and editing posts is a real pain as well. Try using Firefox. Worked for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassTractor Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 [quote name='lowdown' timestamp='1403083043' post='2479495'] When someone above said "Left-winger Arsehole Numpty!!!!!!!!!!!" I presume they where talking about Wayne Rooney? [/quote] (Note though that it was someone's alleged login name, and we can never be sure it was Wayne who alledgedly chose that login name.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cclowend Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 <p>[quote name='leftybassman392' timestamp='1403094615' post='2479671']<br /> There are some issues with IE. Writing and editing posts is a real pain as well. Try using Firefox. Worked for me. <img src='http://basschat.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/default/i-m_so_happy.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /><br /> [/quote]<br /> <br /> </p> using another browser.......testing, testing, 1,2,3...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cclowend Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Sort of worked! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Try Chrome - I switched months ago and never looked back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamdenRob Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1403100411' post='2479758'] Try Chrome - I switched months ago and never looked back. [/quote] Mrs C uses chorme... I use firefox... neither of us know anything about browsers but we still argue about which is best, even though we have no idea what we're talking about.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cclowend Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 <p>[quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1403100615' post='2479759']<br /> Mrs C uses chorme... I use firefox... neither of us know anything about browsers but we still argue about which is best, even though we have no idea what we're talking about.... <img src='http://basschat.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/default/blink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /><br /> [/quote]<br /> <br /> </p> I am using a windows phone but at least this browser lets me quote although it does look a little zx spectrummy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jus Lukin Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) - Edited February 19, 2022 by Jus Lukin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cclowend Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 They were great. I had a ZX128+2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jus Lukin Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) - Edited February 19, 2022 by Jus Lukin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 I had a ZX81. God, that takes me back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Stu Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 [font=courier new,courier,monospace]B B C A c o r n [/font][font=courier new,courier,monospace]E l e c t r o n f o r t h e w i n ![/font] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) Then I had a Dragon 32. It was crap. Edited June 18, 2014 by discreet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassTractor Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 [quote name='Big_Stu' timestamp='1403127722' post='2480148'] [font=courier new,courier,monospace]A c o r n [/font][font=courier new,courier,monospace]E l e c t r o n f o r t h e w i n ![/font] [/quote] Fixed. Don't remember exactly, but it did have a few features even the Beeb lacked. Really nice little kompjootah. But has anyone had an Atom? I get the feeling not many of those were sold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBollock Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 My first home computer was a Tandy TRS80. I have owned a Speccy 128+2 and a 48k rubber key. Plus a Commodore PET and a Commodore Amiga 500+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Stu Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 [quote name='BassTractor' timestamp='1403128450' post='2480157'] Fixed. Don't remember exactly, but it did have a few features even the Beeb lacked. Really nice little kompjootah. But has anyone had an Atom? I get the feeling not many of those were sold. [/quote] The BBC was an afterthought - weren't they simlee-er? Oh the joys of playing the cassette to play a kind of Star-Trek game with my lad. Turning the volume up as the cassette loaded was all part of the ................ immense build up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisnameistaken Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Looks like I'm still here, and I haven't even had a message from the mods. *mops brow* So... Browsers: I'm a software developer currently working on a web-based client for a catalogue management system, and I can say with some authority that Chrome is now a much better browser than Firefox. Firefox is still a very good browser, but Webkit-based browsers are faster and have better Javascript engines (much more important now than it used to be). Firefox still has great levels of standards-compliance so it's thankfully easy to develop for, but it's being left behind in performance to Chrome and Safari. As for Internet Exploder, it's a lot quicker than it used to be but even supporting IE8 (the last version available in XP) is painful, it's such a bad browser. The sooner every rational person stops using IE, the better, for everybody. (c) 1982 Sinclair Research Ltd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Coffee Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) [quote name='thisnameistaken' timestamp='1403129276' post='2480168'] Looks like I'm still here, and I haven't even had a message from the mods. *mops brow* So... Browsers: I'm a software developer currently working on a web-based client for a catalogue management system, and I can say with some authority that Chrome is now a much better browser than Firefox. Firefox is still a very good browser, but Webkit-based browsers are faster and have better Javascript engines (much more important now than it used to be). Firefox still has great levels of standards-compliance so it's thankfully easy to develop for, but it's being left behind in performance to Chrome and Safari. As for Internet Exploder, it's a lot quicker than it used to be but even supporting IE8 (the last version available in XP) is painful, it's such a bad browser. The sooner every rational person stops using IE, the better, for everybody. (c) 1982 Sinclair Research Ltd. [/quote] Pardon my ignorance but could you explain the bit about WebKit based browsers and java in laypersons terms so that the uneducated IT morons like me can understand. Pity me, I owned a ZX spectrum 1982 Sinclair research etc.... Cheers Edited June 18, 2014 by bassman344 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisnameistaken Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) [quote name='bassman344' timestamp='1403129630' post='2480170']Pardon my ignorance but could you explain the bit about WebKit based browsers and java in laypersons terms so that the uneducated IT morons like me can understand. [/quote] OK well for starters Java is not Javascript. Java runs as compiled code and can be used to develop semi-standalone applications (you still need a Java Virtual Machine [JVM] to run it, although JVMs are now commonplace), whereas Javascript is a scripting language which requires an interpreter (an interpreter is a much simpler bit of kit). Traditionally only web browsers have contained Javascript interpreters although it's now being used server-side using technologies such as Node.js That probably made no sense. In short: For example Minecraft is a Java application and can run on any platform that has a Java Virtual Machine (Linux, Windows, Mac OS, even Lego potentially), Java is touted as a 'write once, run anywhere' programming language, although it's known in the trade as 'write once, crash everywhere'. Javascript is, traditionally, what makes magic happen in your web browser, although these days it's so common it's not thought of as magic any more. When you submit a form and it highlights a field you haven't filled in correctly, that's Javascript. When you do anything at all in GMail in your browser, when you click 'Like' on a Facebook post, when you upload something to Soundcloud, when you ask for 'More stories' on Google News, when you click any of the text formatting buttons when writing a forum post on Basschat, and indeed when you click the 'Post' button, Javascript does that for you. Basically if you click something on a web page and something happens without the entire page reloading, that's thanks to Javascript. HTTP is a stateless protocol, and web pages cannot do anything once they have rendered. They rely on Javascript to do anything that needs to happen in between page requests. You'll have noticed that lots of stuff tends to happen these days that doesn't involve loading a whole new web page. Chrome is much faster at doing that than Firefox is. And while I recognise that, I won't hear a bad word said about Firefox, because it led the charge in taking the web back from Microsoft. Internet Explorer was always every developer's worst nightmare, and every time a user switched from IE to Firefox was a huge victory for the future of the web. They might be lagging behind now, but Chrome and Safari owe a lot to Firefox. Edited June 18, 2014 by thisnameistaken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 [quote name='thisnameistaken' timestamp='1403129276' post='2480168'] Looks like I'm still here, and I haven't even had a message from the mods. *mops brow* [/quote] Why would you? You're not the member they're looking for... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Coffee Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 [quote name='thisnameistaken' timestamp='1403132533' post='2480199'] OK well for starters Java is not Javascript. Java runs as compiled code and can be used to develop semi-standalone applications (you still need a Java Virtual Machine [JVM] to run it, although JVMs are now commonplace), whereas Javascript is a scripting language which requires an interpreter (an interpreter is a much simpler bit of kit). Traditionally only web browsers have contained Javascript interpreters although it's now being used server-side using technologies such as Node.js That probably made no sense. In short: For example Minecraft is a Java application and can run on any platform that has a Java Virtual Machine (Linux, Windows, Mac OS, even Lego potentially), Java is touted as a 'write once, run anywhere' programming language, although it's known in the trade as 'write once, crash everywhere'. Javascript is, traditionally, what makes magic happen in your web browser, although these days it's so common it's not thought of as magic any more. When you submit a form and it highlights a field you haven't filled in correctly, that's Javascript. When you do anything at all in GMail in your browser, when you click 'Like' on a Facebook post, when you upload something to Soundcloud, when you ask for 'More stories' on Google News, when you click any of the text formatting buttons when writing a forum post on Basschat, and indeed when you click the 'Post' button, Javascript does that for you. Basically if you click something on a web page and something happens without the entire page reloading, that's thanks to Javascript. HTTP is a stateless protocol, and web pages cannot do anything once they have rendered. They rely on Javascript to do anything that needs to happen in between page requests. You'll have noticed that lots of stuff tends to happen these days that doesn't involve loading a whole new web page. Chrome is much faster at doing that than Firefox is. And while I recognise that, I won't hear a bad word said about Firefox, because it led the charge in taking the web back from Microsoft. Internet Explorer was always every developer's worst nightmare, and every time a user switched from IE to Firefox was a huge victory for the future of the web. They might be lagging behind now, but Chrome and Safari owe a lot to Firefox. [/quote] Thanks. Makes a bit more sense now. So Java is literally the enabler for faster web action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassTractor Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 [quote name='KingBollock' timestamp='1403128820' post='2480163'] a Commodore PET [/quote] Ah! The museum piece par excellence. I still have the leaflets for those somewhere. They were so cool. I'd like one on my desk right now - or rather two: both that terribly, funkily square one with the cassette deck (no space for the keyboard but who cares) that is in all the movies, and that beeeooootifully rounded off thing that I think came later (though that one may have been a different, more expensive series - don't really remembah). [quote name='Big_Stu' timestamp='1403129096' post='2480167'] The BBC was an afterthought - weren't they simlee-er? Oh the joys of playing the cassette to play a kind of Star-Trek game with my lad. Turning the volume up as the cassette loaded was all part of the ................ immense build up. [/quote] As far as I can tell they were very similar, but I do remember having trouble finding my way on my sister's Electron because of the differences. I'd suppose the most important difference is in the lack of all the inputs and outputs. The Beeb had two rows of them, the one [b]under[/b] the machine providing most of the power. In Holland, the Beeb would cost twice what the Electron cost, so the Electron seemed like a good deal for those who didn't need to connect to other equipment. However, I seem to remember the Electron couldn't run the original "Elite" (probably had a reduced version developed for it), and if that is true you can keep yer demn Electron fer all I care. That said, with 64K, the Commodore 64 could show pictures in the "The Hobbit" game, whereas the Beeb version was text-only. Remember? "Attack the troll" Game over "Attack the troll with the axe" Game over "Attack the hideous troll" Game over "Attack the hideous troll with the axe." Game over "Carefully attack the hideous troll with the axe." Success! Those were the days! I don't want them back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Stu Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 It didn't get to REAL computing until we bought my lad the James Bond Spectrum (??) and you could shoot stuff up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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