tauzero Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 [quote name='LayDownThaFunk' timestamp='1455380149' post='2978641'] Experience, bosworth. [/quote] How big a sample size? I ask because experience of your posts generally points to you being something of a troll, so I'm inclined to take anything you say with a tablespoon or two of salt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehux Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 [quote name='tauzero' timestamp='1455392117' post='2978789'] How big a sample size? I ask because experience of your posts generally points to you being something of a troll, so I'm inclined to take anything you say with a tablespoon or two of salt. [/quote] [mod mode] Easy tiger, let's not light any touchpaper [end mod mode] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bassman7755 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 (edited) [quote name='Bass-Thing' timestamp='1455388152' post='2978736'] Baaaaaaa.... Seriously though it's easy to understand why Bugera gear gets peoples backs up. They scrimp and save to buy the rig of their dreams and then along comes something just as good for a tiny fraction of the price. [/quote] I have no problem with behringer/bugera gear in terms of value for money and yes sometimes they produce kit of such good value that its frankly embarrassing to other brands [b]however [/b]I do have a problem with the ridiculously inflated power rating they use on the amps and cabs. If I were on a tight budget and wanted decent sounding reliable bass gear that was power rated with some reference to reality then peavey would be my go-to brand. Edited February 14, 2016 by bassman7755 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass-Thing Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 [quote name='bassman7755' timestamp='1455443452' post='2979051'] I have no problem with behringer/bugera gear in terms of value for money and yes sometimes they produce kit of such good value that its frankly embarrassing to other brands [b]however [/b]I do have a problem with the ridiculously inflated power rating they use on the amps and cabs. If I were on a tight budget and wanted decent sounding reliable bass gear that was power rated with some reference to reality then peavey would be my go-to brand. [/quote] Odd really because the inflated power ratings are only applied to some things. I personally think this might be to avoid making too obvious a copy, but I can see how some folks might find it confusing and misleading. I think a good way round that is to check out what the copy is of. The power ratings will be pretty much identical. I agree Peavey is good gear. I've a couple of great practice amps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass-Thing Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 [quote name='Truckstop' timestamp='1455380029' post='2978640'] [pedant] Technically speaking any cab could 'cope' with the TerrorBass because amps have things called volume controls. You simply keep the volume at a level that the cab can handle before it distorts. [/pedant] [/quote] I think I can guess your specialist subject... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LayDownThaFunk Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 [quote name='tauzero' timestamp='1455392117' post='2978789'] How big a sample size? I ask because experience of your posts generally points to you being something of a troll, so I'm inclined to take anything you say with a tablespoon or two of salt. [/quote] Whatever answer I give, you will counter with something so what's the point? Jog on back to Tecamp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass-Thing Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 [quote name='Yorgo' timestamp='1402311575' post='2471884'] Hi guys, I'm in the market for a cab that can take my Orange Terror 1000 while also fitting in my car! I love the head and it sounds great through the EBS 8x10 I have in the studio, but gigging with EBS is a nightmare as it doesn't fit in my car and I can't afford to hire a van every time I want to gig, ha! Anyways, I noticed Bugera have teamed up with TurboSound to offer this; [url="http://www.bugera-amps.com/EN/products/BN410TS.aspx"]http://www.bugera-am...ts/BN410TS.aspx[/url] It looks good and by the sounds of it, will fit in the car and handle the Terror, my question is, as these are very new with not much in the way of reviews, has anyone tried it? I play in a doom band, so i'm looking for it to be loud and clear. FYI - my signal path is this; Ibanez BTB670 - TU3 - GEQ - COMP - DarkGlass B3K - Ringworm Ring Mod (hilarious pedal) - Terror 1000 - CAB. Thanks in advance for any help, George. [/quote] I'd be curious to know what cab you went for in the end George. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 [quote name='LayDownThaFunk' timestamp='1455374403' post='2978570'] Until they break. Which they will. [/quote] ... or not. I have used Behringer amps very successfully for years. B-bashing gets oh so tiresome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LayDownThaFunk Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 I like it when my tone controls actually do something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass-Thing Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 [quote name='mcnach' timestamp='1455467010' post='2979322'] ... or not. I have used Behringer amps very successfully for years. B-bashing gets oh so tiresome. [/quote] How are you enjoying your Streamliner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 [quote name='Bass-Thing' timestamp='1455476793' post='2979458'] How are you enjoying your Streamliner? [/quote] erm, I am enjoying it alright, why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 [quote name='Bass-Thing' timestamp='1455388152' post='2978736']I think the thing to remember is that with high end brand names, you are paying a lot for extensive research and development. Music Group don't spend any money on this (they just copy everything) so they can pass on the savings to the buyer.[/quote] I think the thing to remember is that with buying any bass cab from a legitimate source, you are paying for someone to build it. Anyone selling a cab that's 'fallen off the back of a lorry' doesn't have to spend any money on that, so they can pass on the savings to the buyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass-Thing Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 (edited) [quote name='alexclaber' timestamp='1455555024' post='2980163'] I think the thing to remember is that with buying any bass cab from a legitimate source, you are paying for someone to build it. Anyone selling a cab that's 'fallen off the back of a lorry' doesn't have to spend any money on that, so they can pass on the savings to the buyer. [/quote] Your quote means stealing so I'm not sure of it's relevance. Copying isn't the same thing, though I imagine if you are being copied it must feel like it is. Music Group is a perfectly legitimate source, in spite of not having a scrap of originality. I've heard great things about your cabs incidentally, but they are out of my price range. What is interesting though, is that there is artistry in work like yours and there will never be artistry in what Bugera does. I think ultimately that art is something people will always be prepared to pay extra for. Edited February 15, 2016 by Bass-Thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass-Thing Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 [quote name='mcnach' timestamp='1455536869' post='2979899'] erm, I am enjoying it alright, why? [/quote] Because the only reason I didn't get one is that they were discontinued... I had to settle for the Bugera Veyron Tube instead which apparently is a bloody good copy. Curious to know how you felt about yours... that's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 [quote name='Bass-Thing' timestamp='1455575358' post='2980456'] Because the only reason I didn't get one is that they were discontinued... I had to settle for the Bugera Veyron Tube instead which apparently is a bloody good copy. Curious to know how you felt about yours... that's all. [/quote] Oh, well... yes, I like it But I never had the chance to try a Veyron, so I have no idea how they compare but I suspect I'd be happy with the Veyron too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 [quote name='Bass-Thing' timestamp='1455575210' post='2980455']Your quote means stealing so I'm not sure of it's relevance. Copying isn't the same thing, though I imagine if you are being copied it must feel like it is.[/quote] If you copy another business's intellectual property then legally and morally that is considered theft. Whether the company being stolen from can afford to get the lawyers involved to defend themselves is another matter - but there are plenty of cases on record of companies receiving settlements from the group in question. I'm glad you see the art in what we do but what matters to me more is the engineering - and once you've done the R&D work it's very easy for another business to reverse engineer what you've done and make a copy. Whether the copy is as well executed will depend on the manufacturing process and the components used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_Bass Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 [quote name='Bass-Thing' timestamp='1455374201' post='2978565'] No. It's just that after several years of being let down by brands like Ampeg, Trace Elliot, Hartke (not their cabs) and Ashdown, I've finally found brilliant amps and cabs that are ridiculously inexpensive. [/quote] Let down by TE???!!! Did you drop it on your foot? Now, seriously, i want to hear the story. How did it break down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass-Thing Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 [quote name='Ghost_Bass' timestamp='1455623884' post='2980744'] Let down by TE???!!! Did you drop it on your foot? Now, seriously, i want to hear the story. How did it break down? [/quote] I dropped it on my foot... Seriously it was a few years ago that I bought a used 100w combo on eBay. It sounded bloody awful and the tone knobs didn't appear to do anything. I sold it on fairly quickly. Tbh I liked the idea of buying British but I guess you learn some things the hard way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomBass Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 [quote name='Bass-Thing' timestamp='1455669928' post='2981410'] I dropped it on my foot... Seriously it was a few years ago that I bought a used 100w combo on eBay. It sounded bloody awful and the tone knobs didn't appear to do anything. I sold it on fairly quickly. Tbh I liked the idea of buying British but I guess you learn some things the hard way... [/quote] It wasn't a Commando by any chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass-Thing Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 [quote name='RandomBass' timestamp='1455697657' post='2981469'] It wasn't a Commando by any chance? [/quote] Yes it was! I'd forgotten... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomBass Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 [quote name='Bass-Thing' timestamp='1455706964' post='2981598'] Yes it was! I'd forgotten... [/quote] As my mum once said, never go Commando without a backup.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass-Thing Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 [quote name='RandomBass' timestamp='1455708315' post='2981615'] As my mum once said, never go Commando without a backup.... [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadeusex Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) Cheers everybody! Resurrecting an old thread here. I bought the bn410ts a few weeks ago and I have only good things to say about it. Build quality is great - the surface coating is going to get scratched and is prone to collect marks but that's the last thing I care about (i know that's not the case for other people). Sound: It sounds punchy - tight and reproduces everything really nice. (there's no linear cab - no discussion). Low B comes out great (TRB6p Modulus Quantum6 TRB JP2 Cort A5 with US-made MK5 PUs). Loudness - boy that thing can go loud - really loud. I'm driving it with a Crest CPX 2600 and if I want to our FOH engineer can't distinguish if the bass comes from the P.A. or the cab (mind You I'm talking about an L-Acoustics Kara line array and we play loud - (13 piece band)). To keep things clear: My big rig is an Eden US-made 410&210 xlt stack and my favorite cabs (provided by the backline companies) are the EBS 410 (both neo and proline) and the GK-410 RBH. But that sweet little (well it's not a small cab, neither a light one but manageable especially compared to my 410xlt) Cab is an outstanding cab and a real steal for the money. I've paid 350 euros. Highly recommended! Edited September 9, 2019 by amadeusex 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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