stingrayPete1977 Posted June 23, 2014 Posted June 23, 2014 So we agreed to a charity gig, it was last night so a sunday, fail 1, miles away, fail 2, meant to be a marquee on site, massive fail 3. Even with a huge field at a football club we ended up on a slope next to the changing rooms where we couldnt be seen, no one was interested in a live band and clearly planned to go home as soon as the match finished regardless of how good or bad we were going to be, utter waste of my sunday night. I have agreed to a charity gig in september that is indoor and local but it will be my last ever im affraid no matter how good a cause it is, I know other musicians who have the same policy but I have been lucky to only do a few each year really, this was my worst gig ever. [URL=http://s997.photobucket.com/user/stingraypete/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-06/20140622_183544_zpswrv3yd3y.jpg.html][IMG]http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af100/stingraypete/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-06/20140622_183544_zpswrv3yd3y.jpg[/IMG][/URL] I cant see how anyone could have made a good job of it? Quote
Coilte Posted June 23, 2014 Posted June 23, 2014 Good on you for apparently seeing the funny side of it. At least the weather seems to have been on your side. Quote
JTUK Posted June 23, 2014 Posted June 23, 2014 Can't blame you for trying to do a decent thing but maybe the organisers would have thought about it a bit more if you had charged them something.. I am getting the idea that they maybe didn't respect your effort much which makes it a bit galling. We tend to take a stance that maybe appear to be arrogant to a degree..?? but it is something like, we aren't 'amateurs' so don't treat us as such. This is why we try and sound them out with what they are providing. Something that sorts the men from the boys is Beer festival P.A's, for example. If we spec that and they agree, then we know they have done their homework... Stage size, etc etc ... if events want everything free, then alarms bells tend to ring...sorry to say. Quote
HowieBass Posted June 23, 2014 Posted June 23, 2014 Is it my eyes or does the front of the kick drum say 'Judas Trio'? Divine retribution? Nice basses by the way! Quote
Musicman20 Posted June 23, 2014 Posted June 23, 2014 Oh Pete! At least you see the funny side. I've played a really good gig for charity in the past (one of the busiest liveliest gigs I've played in the past 4 years or so) but yep, some charity events are basically so much work for no one to even take any notice or actually raise money. I tend to do a lot of work related charity events so that is now enough for me....only got so much time in life! Saying that, if its a well organised good cause, I'd play it if it meant I'd have a good time and maybe just cover fuel, etc. Quote
Musicman20 Posted June 23, 2014 Posted June 23, 2014 PS - Does that say Sue Ryder? Basschat have already raised a lot for them by buying ALL of their old bass stock. Quote
Weststarx Posted June 23, 2014 Posted June 23, 2014 I must admit that looks hilarious... I now worry about the charity gig we're doing on 4th July.... Quote
stingrayPete1977 Posted June 23, 2014 Author Posted June 23, 2014 [quote name='Coilte' timestamp='1403550029' post='2483841'] Good on you for apparently seeing the funny side of it. At least the weather seems to have been on your side. [/quote] If it had rained that would have topped it off! Quote
ead Posted June 23, 2014 Posted June 23, 2014 Great charity Sue Ryder, I do stuff for them in my spare time. Well done for trying. Quote
stingrayPete1977 Posted June 23, 2014 Author Posted June 23, 2014 [quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1403550859' post='2483848'] Can't blame you for trying to do a decent thing but maybe the organisers would have thought about it a bit more if you had charged them something.. I am getting the idea that they maybe didn't respect your effort much which makes it a bit galling. We tend to take a stance that maybe appear to be arrogant to a degree..?? but it is something like, we aren't 'amateurs' so don't treat us as such. This is why we try and sound them out with what they are providing. Something that sorts the men from the boys is Beer festival P.A's, for example. If we spec that and they agree, then we know they have done their homework... Stage size, etc etc ... if events want everything free, then alarms bells tend to ring...sorry to say. [/quote] It was a proper home made effort which we knew to be fair but how hard is it to at least find a flat bit of ground and two extension reels? Some charity gigs I have done have been arranged by people I know that provide and mix the pa, very good engineers with great gear those are possibly still worth doing but even then often the gig is poorly attended or it rains. Quote
lojo Posted June 23, 2014 Posted June 23, 2014 Ive done some charity gigs which have been fantastic fun, and some that have not, but arguably there was a decent amount of money raised, so I suppose thats fine, as I thats why we agree to help So I guess the question is, did they raise a decent amount to make your effort worthwhile, by the look of the tarpaulins, I think I know the answer, but I hope I'm wrong? Quote
stingrayPete1977 Posted June 23, 2014 Author Posted June 23, 2014 [quote name='HowieBass' timestamp='1403551189' post='2483852'] Is it my eyes or does the front of the kick drum say 'Judas Trio'? Divine retribution? Nice basses by the way! [/quote] That is our tongue in cheek bit of fun as the band is made of judases (judi judass judas'?) Lol Quote
stingrayPete1977 Posted June 23, 2014 Author Posted June 23, 2014 [quote name='Weststarx' timestamp='1403551572' post='2483861'] I must admit that looks hilarious... I now worry about the charity gig we're doing on 4th July.... [/quote] Is there a marquee provided? Lol Quote
HowieBass Posted June 23, 2014 Posted June 23, 2014 [quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1403551965' post='2483868'] That is our tongue in cheek bit of fun as the band is made of judases (judi judass judas'?) Lol [/quote] You need to make an album called 'Sell Out'... Quote
stingrayPete1977 Posted June 23, 2014 Author Posted June 23, 2014 [quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1403551259' post='2483854'] PS - Does that say Sue Ryder? Basschat have already raised a lot for them by buying ALL of their old bass stock. [/quote] It was the first thing I thought, well second after wtf! Actually third because second was "what the f*** is that horse doing roaming around!". [quote name='ead' timestamp='1403551699' post='2483864'] Great charity Sue Ryder, I do stuff for them in my spare time. Well done for trying. [/quote] yep im not saying the charity is bad and the organisers were trying their best too. [quote name='lojo' timestamp='1403551912' post='2483867'] Ive done some charity gigs which have been fantastic fun, and some that have not, but arguably there was a decent amount of money raised, so I suppose thats fine, as I thats why we agree to help So I guess the question is, did they raise a decent amount to make your effort worthwhile, by the look of the tarpaulins, I think I know the answer, but I hope I'm wrong? [/quote] £250 I think. Quote
stingrayPete1977 Posted June 23, 2014 Author Posted June 23, 2014 [quote name='HowieBass' timestamp='1403552152' post='2483870'] You need to make an album called 'Sell Out'... [/quote] Ha very good Quote
stingrayPete1977 Posted June 23, 2014 Author Posted June 23, 2014 Crazy how cheap our gear looks under the ghetto tent, there is a few quids worth there, the Jobeky drum kit and control modules alone are worth a fortune yet it all looks like crap from a jumble sale because of the shack, my lighting rig never left the van.... Quote
Highfox Posted June 23, 2014 Posted June 23, 2014 [quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1403552496' post='2483879'] Crazy how cheap our gear looks under the ghetto tent, there is a few quids worth there, the Jobeky drum kit and control modules alone are worth a fortune yet it all looks like crap from a jumble sale because of the shack, my lighting rig never left the van.... [/quote] lol Pete, I feel for you. I'd chalk that one down to experience. Quote
BassTractor Posted June 23, 2014 Posted June 23, 2014 (edited) Not important, I know, but to me it actually looked expensive from left to right. I knew of the Ray of course, but still. FIrst glimpse of the drum set and your Genz (long before I saw what it was), and I was like "That looks expensive", and this was long before you wrote about how it looked cheap. So: no! ...except for the furnace that is. A tiny furnace with a short, thin chimney like that will never generate enough convection or draught. Should be illegal. Hope you kept warm enough though. Edited June 23, 2014 by BassTractor Quote
stingrayPete1977 Posted June 23, 2014 Author Posted June 23, 2014 The log burner is great, feedback you might say? Electric double bass and electric drum kit so we can go as loud as we like! There is a 1600 watt peavey power amp and a pair of passive Mackie tops for front of house out of shot. Quote
stingrayPete1977 Posted June 23, 2014 Author Posted June 23, 2014 Even the guitar amp is wired inline rather than micd up which is why it is side on, I put it right after for visual effect! Lol Quote
stingrayPete1977 Posted June 23, 2014 Author Posted June 23, 2014 Even I have to look close to realise the Ray is a five string, which I like, very versatile look for a fiver imo. Quote
Dad3353 Posted June 23, 2014 Posted June 23, 2014 No mockery here, lad. You did good. Kudos; hope the next deal pans out a bit better, though. Respect. Quote
Number6 Posted June 23, 2014 Posted June 23, 2014 Without experiences such as this how would we ever learn? ;-) Quote
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