Thunderpaws Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Ola. Have recorded some tracks using di + Mic. Now, I have read that I should invert phases, or something like that, to get away from a slightly hollow sound caused by slight differences in signal from each. Can someone enlighten me as to how you go about this? I don't have a Scooby and my main, guitarist, man doesn't think we need to. However, I guess we won't know if we have to unless we try it and notice any differences. Thanks for any helpful comments that come my way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonbass Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 If you have a phase invert button (on the desk or DAW) it's easy enough to test. Just try it in and out and see which sounds better (less thin; fuller). Where you find the phase invert is the tricky bit. In Logic it's on the gain plugin of the stock plugins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowieBass Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 You only need to switch polarity if the existing tracks are already out of phase... this article should help explain: http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep12/articles/mixing-bass.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topo morto Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Did you record or transfer onto a computer? If so you can see any phase and timing issues clearly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderpaws Posted June 25, 2014 Author Share Posted June 25, 2014 Recorded onto an 8 track then sent to a pc running QBase. When I get to the other guitarists house with that pc I will ask him to check. Thanks very much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockfordStone Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 cubase has a phase invert button on the track fader also, the phase inversion isn't a hard and fast rule, sometimes it is a matter of just lining the peaks etc up with the wave form, but as with all recording elements, do what sounds best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Hughes Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Quick tip that a mate told me recently is to zoom into one of the tracks - ie: making the time stretch out to the smallest increment - then highlight that track and moving it a millisecond or two forward. The difference won't be audible but the peaks and troughs will not be out of phase. You know you'll have moved it too much if it sounds like you've added a chorus pedal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahpook Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 (edited) [quote name='RockfordStone' timestamp='1403733412' post='2485860'] cubase has a phase invert button on the track fader [/quote] It's near the top of the track control IIRC Edited June 25, 2014 by ahpook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 inverting them will only work if they're exactly out of phase You need to align them as best you can. Zoom in on both tracks and try to align the peaks and troughs so that they're in the same place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topo morto Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Yep, phase inversion and time alignment aren't alternatives when it comes to complex signals (i.e. music) - To get things in phase, you want to phase invert one signal if (and only if) the two signals are out of phase, and time shift if (and only if) there's a delay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderpaws Posted June 26, 2014 Author Share Posted June 26, 2014 Thanks so much for your posts gents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Badderer Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 this is a really useful video and will explain the steps people have described above https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SI9_uLN-YWA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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