visog Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 I ask 'cause I've been listening to various musics where each is the most important: - Melody: Squire playing a line through Yes' chord changes - Harmony: Jeff Berlin/Gary Willis playing off chord tones - Rhythm: Rocco rippin' up the 16ths What's the best? You decide! Quote
visog Posted July 18, 2014 Author Posted July 18, 2014 Forgot to mention - you can only really have one primary then the two secondarys - and why? Quote
discreet Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) You can't generally have one without the other two... they are symbiotic in varying degrees. EDIT: I think you are introducing too many restrictions on choice, here! Edited July 18, 2014 by discreet Quote
winterfire666 Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 all three for me, it may be against the rules but its the only way, i use all 3 styles in equal measures. Quote
JTUK Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 If you haven't got decent rhythm, you'll have no groove, IMO so that is primary as far as I am concerned... And not sure Rocco is the example to hold up, btw... but it's only a game.......... Quote
visog Posted July 18, 2014 Author Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) [quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1405705800' post='2504574'] If you haven't got decent rhythm, you'll have no groove, IMO [/quote] Right so here's the thing: Yes and Holdsworth don't groove... but they're both great music... (I know Ernest Tibbs and Jimmy Haslip have introduced some groove to AH.. I'd say Jimmy Johnson whilst awesome, was primarily harmonic...) Edited July 18, 2014 by visog Quote
Lozz196 Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 [quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1405705800' post='2504574'] If you haven't got decent rhythm, you'll have no groove, IMO so that is primary as far as I am concerned... [/quote] Gotta start here, rhythm the most important for me. Quote
bassace Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 Without harmony we'd be redundant as bassists. Quote
JapanAxe Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 Rhythm. You can play really low and fudge the pitch, but if you haven't nailed the rhythm, you ain't doing your job! Quote
visog Posted July 18, 2014 Author Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) [quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1405708122' post='2504634'] Gotta start here, rhythm the most important for me. [/quote] Enya anyone? No rhythm... Just sayin'... (I'm not disagreeing...) Edited July 18, 2014 by visog Quote
EddyGlee Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 to quote Jaco.. Jaco: "Rhythm is the whole deal" Jerry Jemmott: " Thankyou" Quote
Marvin Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 All 3. No point in just having rhythm if you don't know what to do with it...may as well become a drummer Quote
essexbasscat Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 Those three elements are probably all important to musicians of all stripes, but as an instrumentalist I also include; - Groove - Articulation - Technique - Emotion/feel - Tone - Phrasing - Space/rest - Listening Whenever I think of them, which isn't all the time ! Quote
Dad3353 Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 If one is playing melodically, melody is king. If one plays to the chord changes, harmony wins. If one plays rhythmically, rhythm is top. I'd say it depends on context. I can imagine (but don't wish to..!) a 'slap' player using simply rhythmic expression. I can conceive a melody weaving all around the 'beat'. It's possible to have very fine harmony with no or little rhythm, nor melody as such. Which is essential..? Whatever serves best the piece, I'd say. Quote
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