LukeFRC Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 Following on from a thread earlier this year about using PA gear as a bass rig I'm kinda wanting to pick up a pair of decent active speakers.... Secondhand is nice but where would i go to find that sorta stuff secondhand? PA land seemd to be another world compared to bass land! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassmonkey Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Rock Factory in Castleford has a lot of used stuff. Worth a look . Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molan Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 There's often a lot on eBay. Biggest problem with so much used PA gear is that it's often trashed by the time it's sold. Not as many sound engineers with major PA GAS compared to bass players - they jus use stuff until it breaks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 [quote name='Bassmonkey' timestamp='1405983644' post='2507324'] Rock Factory in Castleford has a lot of used stuff. Worth a look . Andy [/quote] [quote name='molan' timestamp='1405984149' post='2507326'] There's often a lot on eBay. Biggest problem with so much used PA gear is that it's often trashed by the time it's sold. Not as many sound engineers with major PA GAS compared to bass players - they jus use stuff until it breaks [/quote] thanks guys! Yeah I've realised that Barrie! I'm half tempted to replace most my current rig with a active PA speaker. Smaller, lighter, DSP equipped and compared to the cost of new bass stuff not stupid priced. (btw as someone who works in a specialist bass shop and has had a LOT of gear... any thoughts on my idea/plan) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molan Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 I have actually used a pair of PA speakers to gig with once and they sounded great. To be fair they were Trace Elliot cabs (from the short period when Trace went into PA) and each one had a 15" and a 10" mounted concentrically so there was quite a lot air moving Are you planning on using a PA cab for front of house or just as a stage monitor with the main PA running FoH? We have a local PA guru who also knows a lot about bass gear so I've asked his opinion for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 [quote name='molan' timestamp='1406025916' post='2507555'] I have actually used a pair of PA speakers to gig with once and they sounded greatp. To be fair they were Trace Elliot cabs (from the short period when Trace went into PA) and each one had a 15" and a 10" mounted concentrically so there was quite a lot air moving Are you planning on using a PA cab for front of house or just as a stage monitor with the main PA running FoH? We have a local PA guru who also knows a lot about bass gear so I've asked his opinion for you [/quote] most gigs I've ever played have been via the pa, and one of the places I play we all have our own in ears so while a nice preamp helps I'm not sure I need to spend loads on a poweramp/head and cab. Strikes me a powered pa speaker with a response -3dB at 40-50hz or so will have a good enough low end response , have dsp built in and be designed to be flatter through the freq range and be able to use for other things other than bass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molan Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 My PA guy says no In his opinion the core sound of a PA cab won't sound that nice with a bass running straight into it. He said you could use a sub cab to get some of the core fundamentals but the decent ones start to get pretty expensive, at which point you might as well buy a bass specific combo. He's been selling PA gear professionally for many years and also works with a couple of quality bass amplification brands as well. I would definitely trust his judgement on stuff. I think his summary was that if it worked really well to buy a powered PA cab as a bass monitor then loads of people would be doing it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 [quote name='molan' timestamp='1406066017' post='2508090'] My PA guy says no In his opinion the core sound of a PA cab won't sound that nice with a bass running straight into it. He said you could use a sub cab to get some of the core fundamentals but the decent ones start to get pretty expensive, at which point you might as well buy a bass specific combo. He's been selling PA gear professionally for many years and also works with a couple of quality bass amplification brands as well. I would definitely trust his judgement on stuff. I think his summary was that if it worked really well to buy a powered PA cab as a bass monitor then loads of people would be doing it [/quote] fair enough - plan B then - or plan C...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molan Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 (edited) Have you seen this new Ampeg combo? [url="http://www.ampeg.com/products/bassamp/ba-210/#"]http://www.ampeg.com...assamp/ba-210/#[/url] It's designed to work with a very shallow tilt so it can be a standalone floor monitor - even looks like a PA style monitor when tilted with the amp controls down the side If you click the left or right wedge images you can see what I mean No idea on price yet but I am reliably informed that they are on their way across the Atlantic right now. . . Edited July 23, 2014 by molan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted July 23, 2014 Author Share Posted July 23, 2014 [quote name='molan' timestamp='1406109053' post='2508332'] Have you seen this new Ampeg combo? [url="http://www.ampeg.com/products/bassamp/ba-210/#"]http://www.ampeg.com...assamp/ba-210/#[/url] It's designed to work with a very shallow tilt so it can be a standalone floor monitor - even looks like a PA style monitor when tilted with the amp controls down the side If you click the left or right wedge images you can see what I mean No idea on price yet but I am reliably informed that they are on their way across the Atlantic right now. . . [/quote] so... I don't think I would have ever considered that.... but... I may go find one to try when they come out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vsmith1 Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 Have you checked Sound On Sound? http://www.soundonsound.com/readersads Mostly studio stuff but some PA, live kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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