solo4652 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 While I sit around waiting for a B/F Midget to come up for sale, I'm researching lightweight, 250/300w 112 cabs. Budget max is £600 for two. Outline specs: Weight max = 12kgs, 250/300W minimum @ 8 ohms, tweeter not necessary, prefer new but good secondhand also OK List so far, in decreasing order of desire; Secondhand B/F Midget New TKS S112 errr Secondhand Tecamp XS112 (I've seen Scooby's for sale ad, thanks) New Fender Rumble 112 I've dropped Mike Walsh a line at Purple Chili to see what he has. I've looked at used Bergs, Epifani, Schroeder, etc but I'm not finding anything that fits within the 250W/12kgs/£300 parameters. Anything I've missed? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
largo Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Look at the GK Neo 112-ii cabs. Great value, build and importantly tone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 [quote name='largo' timestamp='1406810564' post='2514906'] Look at the GK Neo 112-ii cabs. Great value, build and importantly tone. [/quote] This! I have two of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepheid Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Hartke HyDrive 112? 300W and switchable 4/8ohm impedance. 3 position tweeter control (on, -6dB, off). 13.6kg though, and £330-340 new, so I'm probably breaking too many of your rules, sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solo4652 Posted July 31, 2014 Author Share Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) I've just received a very interesting email from Mike Walsh at Purple Chili. Two 112's, 400W @ 8ohms each, Eminence Delta 12FLA drivers, not sure of the overall cab weight, just within budget. Hmmmm Actually, just one cab of 400W @ 4ohms would probably be OK. I'll ask for a price and weight. Edited July 31, 2014 by solo4652 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Deciding if you need one or two needs to be at the to of your list IMO, a pair of ok twelves will still be better than a singular twelve even if it's a better cab, I'm sure we will have our nay Sayers but I'm man enough to admit a pair of the hartke or GK cabs would be better in a gig situation than my singular Genz twelve even though the cost of one would buy a pair of the hartke twelves for example, this is why I have a 2x12 version for proper gigs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eude Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 [quote name='solo4652' timestamp='1406812127' post='2514921'] I've just received a very interesting email from Mike Walsh at Purple Chili. Two 112's, 400W @ 8ohms each, Eminence Delta 12FLA drivers, not sure of the overall cab weight, just within budget. Hmmmm Actually, just one cab of 400W @ 4ohms would probably be OK. I'll ask for a price and weight. [/quote] Was just about to suggest that Mike would be a good bet. He makes amazing cabs and every one I've seen have been nicely finished and incredibly light! Plus they're made right here in the UK Eude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solo4652 Posted July 31, 2014 Author Share Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) @stingraypete1977 I have a 210 cab loaded with Eminence Delta 10's and I really like the clear, middy tone I get. I much preferred it over the Compact for gigs because, to me, the Compact tone was a bit too rich and thick, especially with my Fender P. Trouble is, the 210 cab is too unwieldy for rehearsals (stairs...) So, my main need is for something light and powerful enough for use at rehearsals, maybe teamed up with a second cab for gigs so I don't have to wrestle with the heavy 210 cab. 5-piece country-pop band. Rehearsal recordings (through the air recordings, no post mixing) here (no tittering please!): [url="https://soundcloud.com/stella-rossa-band"]https://soundcloud.c...ella-rossa-band[/url] playing pubs, wine-bars, private parties. Sometimes I DI through the PA, but I prefer not to have to rely on that. Edited July 31, 2014 by solo4652 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassBunny Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Hi Steve, As someone who has had a pair of Mike Walsh's Zoot 1x12's for around 8 yrs now, you know what I would say. The drivers he is proposing are the same as in mine and I have been more than happy with them. I have bought and sold loads of cabs over the years but always kept the Zoot's. The secret is in the super lightweight ply Mike somehow manages to get hold of that make the cabs as light as a fart. It is great being able to use 1 cab for a small venue or onstage monitoring and then the 2 if you want to really make some noise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solo4652 Posted July 31, 2014 Author Share Posted July 31, 2014 Yes - I remember playing through your Zoots and wanting to buy one off you! Mike is saying that a 112 cab with those drivers comes out at almost 13 Kgs. I'd maybe prefer something a bit lighter and less wattage for rehearsals, and have a pair for gigs. Getting picky now... Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eude Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 [quote name='solo4652' timestamp='1406819445' post='2515012'] Yes - I remember playing through your Zoots and wanting to buy one off you! Mike is saying that a 112 cab with those drivers comes out at almost 13 Kgs. I'd maybe prefer something a bit lighter and less wattage for rehearsals, and have a pair for gigs. Getting picky now... Steve [/quote] That's not that heavy mate, my tiny little Mi10's are a notch over 10kg and an Aguilar GS112 is 19kg! 13kg should be an easy one hand lift, assuming you're not walking miles with it... Eude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 TKS S112's. Incredible things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 [quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1406820355' post='2515034'] TKS S112's. Incredible things. [/quote] Very affordable too, if my currency conversion is correct... I'm assuming the prices are in Swedish Kroner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1406820842' post='2515042'] Very affordable too, if my currency conversion is correct... I'm assuming the prices are in Swedish Kroner? [/quote] I think you can two, including shipping, for under £600. I could be wrong though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 They are, and the exchange rate is very favourable. Shipping is surprisingly reasonable, too. Incredible for well-designed hand-made cabs.* * Edit: I mean 'not production line'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) Dammit, now I've got TKS GAS!! [quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1406821011' post='2515044'] They are, and the exchange rate is very favourable. [/quote] I assume they sound particularly good with a Limelight Jazz Bass..? Edited July 31, 2014 by discreet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1406821060' post='2515045'] Dammit, now I've got TKS GAS!! [/quote] Me too. Makes me wish I was in a band again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 [quote name='Marvin' timestamp='1406821216' post='2515047'] Me too. Makes me wish I was in a band again. [/quote] Buy the cabs anyway, then find a band. Makes perfect, logical sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solo4652 Posted July 31, 2014 Author Share Posted July 31, 2014 Yep - the TKS S112 is joint favourite with the Purple Chili V12. S112 is 250W RMS @ 8 ohms, 10 kgs, Looks like this: http://www.tks.se/ Purple Chili V12 is 400w @ 8 ohms, 12.3 kgs, Looks like this: http://finnbass.com/showthread.php?p=175540 Similar prices, similar turnround times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 [quote name='solo4652' timestamp='1406823718' post='2515076'] Similar prices, similar turnround times. [/quote] Those PCs are very exclusive though - if I'd read that thread correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 i have a 400w 8ohm matamp 112 that isnt doing anything, if youre interested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 [quote name='solo4652' timestamp='1406817483' post='2514991'] @stingraypete1977 I have a 210 cab loaded with Eminence Delta 10's and I really like the clear, middy tone I get. I much preferred it over the Compact for gigs because, to me, the Compact tone was a bit too rich and thick, especially with my Fender P. Trouble is, the 210 cab is too unwieldy for rehearsals (stairs...) So, my main need is for something light and powerful enough for use at rehearsals, maybe teamed up with a second cab for gigs so I don't have to wrestle with the heavy 210 cab. 5-piece country-pop band. Rehearsal recordings (through the air recordings, no post mixing) here (no tittering please!): [url="https://soundcloud.com/stella-rossa-band"]https://soundcloud.c...ella-rossa-band[/url] playing pubs, wine-bars, private parties. Sometimes I DI through the PA, but I prefer not to have to rely on that. [/quote] You defo need a pair of something then, I dont think even a really good 4ohm 1x12 will keep up with a pair of average 8 ohm 12s, OK the single 4 ohm 12 might sound lots better than the cheaper on on their own in direct comparison but it sounds like you need an 8 ohm for practice and a matching one to add for gigs rather than the 4 ohm leaving you wanting come the big night? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 [quote name='largo' timestamp='1406810564' post='2514906'] Look at the GK Neo 112-ii cabs. Great value, build and importantly tone. [/quote] [quote name='Cosmo Valdemar' timestamp='1406810833' post='2514908'] This! I have two of them. [/quote] I like the look of the TKS and Purple Chilli, but haven`t heard them. I have however heard these GKs and they are very nice sounding cabs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solo4652 Posted July 31, 2014 Author Share Posted July 31, 2014 Discreet. Sorry - not quite sure what you mean by; "Those [Purple Chilis] are very exclusive though..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eude Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 [quote name='solo4652' timestamp='1406839870' post='2515288'] Discreet. Sorry - not quite sure what you mean by; "Those [Purple Chilis] are very exclusive though..." [/quote] The Finnbass thread you linked to talks of an exclusive offer for a the first lot, but as you'll know having spoken to Mike, they all flew out the door and have worked out so well that he's going to continue to offer the design for sale as part of his standard range. I much prefer the vertical orientated design and when I can afford it I'll be selling my Mi10s and getting two of Mike's 1x12s for sure! Eude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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