Was EBS vs Aguilar, but now also thinking GK MB500 fusion

[scoobystig]

Hi I'm after a new rig

And I have tried out a EBS reidnar head coupled with 2x neoline 112 cabs and also an aquilar tone hammer 500 on 2 vanderklay 112 cabs

My question to users of these amps is

Will this cab and amp combo be powerful enough to play in a heavy rock band (metallica, iron maiden, acdc ) type music

2x guitarist and enthusiastic drummer

Thanks for your input

Edited September 5, 2014 by scoobystig

[AntLockyer]

I have a Reidmar, the drummer I play with is loud. I cannot hear him if I turn up past 3 in rehearsal. On an outdoor gig I had to turn down on stage to hear anyone else. Its fooking loud.

[scoobystig]

Ant

What cabs are you running with the amp

[AntLockyer]

A Genz Benz 2x12

[scoobystig]

Thanks. I was looking at greeting the 2x EBS 112's with it

[AntLockyer]

Can't see why that would be any different loudness wise. I bought the Reidmar as a cheaper smaller alternative to the 350 and am glad I did as I jsut don't think I'm missing out on much at all.

[chris_b]

While neither of these rigs are what I'd imagine seeing on a heavy rock gig, the TH500 is a very loud 500 watts and the Reidmar is a loud 250 watts.

We might have totally different ideas on what loud is, but at 100 to 150 watts each amp will probably sound equally loud. IME the Aguilar will be able to keep going, and go louder with more headroom.

The difference will depend on how loud [i]you[/i] have to go in this band.

[molan]

Totally agree with what Chris says. Both of these amps will outperform a lot of other models with similar power ratings.

The Aguilar will have the greater headroom but it's more expensive - but only by maybe £125 if you shop around.

[scoobystig]

Molan

Just checking out where you work, how do you feel the the gallien Krueger mb500 with 2x neo 112 cabs would stack up against the above

Do you have any of this in stock to come and try out as your not far from me

[Matte_black]

The cab(s) you're going to use will make a difference between being heard or being buried by the guitar player(s) IMHO.
You'd certainly get louder with 250w on a 2x12" than with 500w and 1x12" (given the same preamp, eq, power stage and woofer/cabinet).

[EBS_freak]

I have to say that the 112 Neos are not the greatest cab compared to others out there... The EBS 2x12 is probably my fave EBS cab... however, 2 of the 1x12 Neolines don't cut it... unless you like farts that is.

The Reidmar is a fantastic piece of kit... as is the Aguilar. You can't make a decision without hearing them though - they are very different. See Aguilar as more old school sounding and the Reidmar as more hifi. You can take the hifi out of the Reidmar but you can't add the hifi to the Aguilar. Find out which tone is more to your liking.

[JTUK]

I'd say the EBS with Classic cabs may struggle but depends on your version of loud.

What are the gtrs gigging..??

I doubt either will have enough balls, tbh... but they may just get there in terms of volume

[scoobystig]

Hi guys

After trialling a lot of guitarists we have decided to stick to 1 main guitarist and myself on bass with my trusty unibass pedal to fill the holes

He is playing through and the unibass goes through a line 6 combo so no massive 4x12s to cope with

Any one know what the Aguilar gs112 cabs are like or would it suit two berg 112's

Even now considering the GK fusion 500 and 2x GK 112 neo cabs. Any thoughts

[scoobystig]

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1409853384' post='2544020']
I'd say the EBS with Classic cabs may struggle but depends on your version of loud.

What are the gtrs gigging..??

I doubt either will have enough balls, tbh... but they may just get there in terms of volume
[/quote]

Jtuk. I was going for the neo cabs not the classics

[JTUK]

GS112's are great cabs with a lot of depth.
Some say they are scooped ..and I'd agree with that in a good way.
The only reason I moved mine on was because I wanted more mids in them
but they were fantastic for me when I had new strings on.
I went for Bergs 12's which have more mids but they can't compete with the low end
of the GS112's. IME.
I far prefer ceramics to all the NEO's I've used but suspect I am in the minority
if people put weight first.

[Guinness21]

I'm looking at the little mark tube, the shuttlemax 6.2, the gk fusion 500 and the ampeg pf500.

[Lozz196]

Out of the above the only one I`ve not had is the Shuttlemax. I`ve had two PF500s, the first worked fine, the second didn`t make it through the 1st rehearsal. If looking at these I`d go for the PF800 - yet to read any reports of failures.

Tone-wise I reckon all will suit what you`re after. Again, discounting the Shuttlemax as not had one, I found the GK MB Fusion to be the most versatile, but my fave of them all was the Little Mark Tube. The tube doesn`t really do much, just puts a sheen/some hair around the edges of the sound, but what a sound. Really great amp.

[chris_b]

.... as always, be aware of the reliability issues with the PF500.