fretmeister Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 I have joined EUB land with a NS Design NXT. Can someone recommend a serviceable and cheap bow that will get me started please? I have no idea what I'm looking for at all! And what about roisin? There seems to be a huge choice that I wasn't expecting at all! Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myke Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 I will be watching this closely, I am in the same situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 I have a yita music one, they sell via Ebay, I was told they were good on here and when Jake Newman came to give me my first lesson he liked it so much he has since bought himself one, personally I think it must be faulty because it sounds terrible when I use it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 I'm not sure about the rosin yet, I had nymans and it was to hard to apply, then I got a free pot of pops with my Gedo and is a lot better but I sometimes get it just nice then I loose it again. French or German pattern you will need to decide on too, mine is French which appears more popular here and maybe in the USA I think where other countries tend to prefer German, most people will tell you to get what your teacher uses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myke Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 [quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1408872043' post='2534139'] I have a yita music one, they sell via Ebay, I was told they were good on here and when Jake Newman came to give me my first lesson he liked it so much he has since bought himself one, personally I think it must be faulty because it sounds terrible when I use it [/quote] Which one, there is so many? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassBags Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 The wooden Primavera DB bows are great beginner bows, we supply them with most of our hire DBs. Off the top of my head I think we sell them for about £69 so they are great value for money. As for the best rosin, you will need to use Nymans. David. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 [quote name='Myke' timestamp='1408872403' post='2534147'] Which one, there is so many? [/quote] Mine was around £90 I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatback Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 [quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1408882126' post='2534262'] Mine was around £90 I think. [/quote] I think this is the most popular one, and the one I have: 'Advanced' model. http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Advanced-Model-Carbon-Fiber-Double-Bass-Bow-French-/200403175627?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Sting_Instruments&hash=item2ea8f5c8cb There is a 'top' model, but I'm not seeing it on the site atm. Delivery is fast, and most people seem very happy with them. I'm waiting for the 'Harry Potter' magical version. The one that will play me rather than me playing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 This is mine http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Standard-Model-A-Carbon-Fiber-Double-Bass-Bow-French-/140358033272?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Sting_Instruments&hash=item20adfd9f78 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aonindy Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Ditto on the carbon fibre top model yita bow ..prev teacher much approved for the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Everyone told me to stay away from wooden bows for less than at least few hundred quid, The Yita ones are very nice to hold and look at too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassBags Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Bow choice is a very individual thing and to choose the right bow you should always try a range of bows to find what suits you, before you buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatgoogle Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 I used the Yita for a while and its a great bow to get started with. It doesn't have much spring to it so isn't very good for past passages or staccato lines but otherwise i'd still recommend it for a first bow. Also i found it alarmingly light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 What do you think of budget wooden ones, are they as bad as people say? I have a German pattern wooden one that came with my Gedo (I will probably sell it at some point) as a bow noob it is hard to know what is good or bad about it, being German I can grab it easier and saw away at the strings with ease but I gather that is not the idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatgoogle Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 (edited) My very first bow was a very cheap brazil wood thing which was sh*t. However some people have had great luck with the snakewood offerings of ebay which are supposed to be quite good. Its the problem with buying of ebay, you can never be too sure and while one person might get a great bow, you could buy the exact same one and it could be rubbish. Thats also partly to do with the massed produced nature of them. I definitely wouldn't spend less then 200 on a wooden bow if i wanted something that worked though. It sort of depends what you want from a bow, when your beginning your just focusing and long bows and an even sound across the entire length but as you start having to play tricky Mozart semiquavers you need more spring to facilitate this or if your playing Strauss and theres long fortissimo phrases you need more weight that cheaper bows just can't give you. I am either going to pick up a snakewood bow of ebay or a finale carbon fiber bow as a backup to my bazin. Also interestingly enough my teacher still uses a bow he bought for what is about €120 which he uses alongside his Morizot (€5-6000). There both wonderful bows but it shows you can get something that works for you and does everything you need it to for not much money. Edgar Meyer comes to mind. Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1D30AgYAk4 Watch at 23:06 or so for examples of the Mozart that i struggled to play with a cheaper from its lack of spring. Edited August 25, 2014 by fatgoogle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Blimey I dont think I will be having that issue for a while! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 I think the beauty of a carbon bow is that it can be made consistent unlike wood for a budget example, I imagine the hair and the person that fitted it will be more important as with any bow, at least that can be redone by someone who knows what they are doing with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLoydElgar Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 carbon bow up to about £700+ don't waste your money on something that isn't pernabuco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatgoogle Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 [quote name='FLoydElgar' timestamp='1409074715' post='2536081'] carbon bow up to about £700+ don't waste your money on something that isn't pernabuco [/quote] There are many bow makers making bows with snakewood and experimenting with other woods due to the lack and expense of pernambuco wood. Sue Lipkins i think only makes her german bows out of snakewood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBass Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Out of interest, having recently found myself unfortunately in the market for an affordable bow, what kind of import charges are you stung for on the Yitamusic bows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I just paid the Ebay buy it now price and a week later in arrived Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbassist Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 [quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1408872043' post='2534139'] I have a yita music one, they sell via Ebay, I was told they were good on here and when Jake Newman came to give me my first lesson he liked it so much he has since bought himself one, personally I think it must be faulty because it sounds terrible when I use it [/quote] +1 I have played a Yita bow which I liked and was great value for the price. It was a few years ago, but it seems worth considering. I'm interested to see what comes up as never know where to recommend when it comes to beginners bows...or even decent bows in the UK. I play german pattern which makes less choice but it would be great to go to a double bass show like the one in Amsterdam at the moment and try a load out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted August 29, 2014 Author Share Posted August 29, 2014 Bow on the way! I'm quite excited! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted September 2, 2014 Author Share Posted September 2, 2014 Honestly! How long does it take to get an army of chinese children to make me a bow and walk over here? bah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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