Genuine Musicman?

[Roger2611]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Musicman-Ernie-Ball-StingRay-5-String-Bass-/121431335939?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item1c45df2403

Just seen this on Evilbay, I didn't know they used a 4 bolt neck and bullet truss rod?

[MB1]

MB1.
DOH!
It's been listed as a 5
It's a 4
Everything looks right for a 2 band Eq Pre Ernie Ball
Possibly refinished body?
However
They've never made a Semi Fretless to my knowledge
That's odd

[ambient]

I'm most definitely not a Stingray expert, but the first thing that hit me was the logo doesn't look right.

I googled Stingray and it's nothing like the ones in google images.

[url="https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=musicman+stingray+4&client=safari&rls=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ReINVPGiHKWJ7AaDr4HADw&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1260&bih=706"]https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=musicman+stingray+4&client=safari&rls=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ReINVPGiHKWJ7AaDr4HADw&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1260&bih=706[/url]

[stingrayPete1977]

Yep that is normal mate, pre EB rays were 3 bolt microtilt like Fender, then 4 bolt came in before they sold to Ernie Ball, 6 bolt neck and truss rod wheel adjusters came much later with the Stingray 5, It is a trans model probably 1986ish, it has the old logo but with ErnieBall on there too.

[stingrayPete1977]

[quote name='MB1' timestamp='1410195108' post='2547006']
MB1.
DOH!
It's been listed as a 5
It's a 4
Everything looks right for a 2 band Eq Pre Ernie Ball
Possibly refinished body?
However
They've never made a Semi Fretless to my knowledge
That's odd
[/quote]

It is not a pre EB, first two things to check are
1-slab body, all pre EB Rays had one all Ernie Ball ones had the body contours from the very first one.
2-Dot marker on the 21st fret no pre EBs had one and all Ernie ball ones do.

As this has both and the trans logo rather than the left over pre EB neck logo it makes it no earlier than 1985, no rear decal pre 1987.

The frets have just been pulled and filled.

Edited September 8, 2014 by stingrayPete1977

[stingrayPete1977]

[quote name='ambient' timestamp='1410196154' post='2547027'] [b]I'm most definitely not a Stingray expert[/b], but the first thing that hit me was the logo doesn't look right. I googled Stingray and it's nothing like the ones in google images. [url="https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=musicman+stingray+4&client=safari&rls=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ReINVPGiHKWJ7AaDr4HADw&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1260&bih=706"]https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=musicman+stingray+4&client=safari&rls=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ReINVPGiHKWJ7AaDr4HADw&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1260&bih=706[/url] [/quote]

I am

That said I just look here.... [url="http://www.musicmanbass.org/mycustompage0008.htm"]http://www.musicmanbass.org/mycustompage0008.htm[/url]

[MB1]

'stingrayPete1977'
Yep that is normal mate, pre EB rays were 3 bolt microtilt like Fender, then 4 bolt came in before they sold to Ernie Ball, 6 bolt neck and truss rod wheel adjusters came much later with the Stingray 5, It is a trans model probably 1986ish, it has the old logo but with ErnieBall on there too.

MB1.
Was just about to say Stingraypete will be along shortly!

[stingrayPete1977]

[TheGreek]

so the consensus is??? Genuine??

[stingrayPete1977]

Yep but not a pre EB.

They still carry a small premium over a later EBMM one but fetch less than a pre EB Ray, most of them were in that finish too probably came with a clear pickguard when new.

I would rather it still had all its teeth though so I would factor in a refret off the final price.

Edited September 8, 2014 by stingrayPete1977

[MB1]

'TheGreek'
so the consensus is??? Genuine??

MB1.
Indeed
I stand corrected!
They don't call him Stingraypete for nothing!

[timmo]

[quote name='MB1' timestamp='1410197384' post='2547047']
'
They don't call him Stingraypete for nothing!
[/quote] Ahh, i thought it was because of his love for Troy Tempest

Edited September 8, 2014 by timmo

[MB1]

'timmo'
Ahh, i thought it was because of his love for Troy Tempest

MB1.
Nah Think he's more of a Aqua Marina type of guy!

[budget bassist]

Love those old 'rays. Still not that uncommon a sight, that one is very much genuine, as Stingraypete said.

[stingrayPete1977]

[quote name='MB1' timestamp='1410207127' post='2547188']
'timmo'
Ahh, i thought it was because of his love for Troy Tempest

MB1.
Nah Think he's more of a Aqua Marina type of guy!
[/quote]

Oh yes

[stingrayPete1977]

I must point out Thunderbirds was before my time really, more of a Jim'll fix it, It's a knockout, Rolfs Cartoon club kind of guy ....hang on maybe not!

[ChunkyMunky]

It's definitely genuine. The guy originally posted this a few months back and I almost bought it.