White Cloud Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 [quote name='bubinga5' timestamp='1410642688' post='2551632'] im not a Stingray man but i do love them. Ive always owned Jazz basses. when i played a SR4 it blew me away. i ve owned an SR5 that was amazing. still have not owned an SR4 which are different, in lots of ways. anyways this guy is great on a Music Man. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvWiT6Q6Awk[/media] [/quote] Still have that on VHS...bought it when it was originally released. Excellent! I have some old demo's that I recorded with one of my old bands back in the 80's...I recorded them with my old Stingray...probably the best recorded bass sounds that I made. Considering my other bass was a Wal custom at the time it says all there is to know about that....now. I cant even remember what happened to that old stingray. And I knew a guy who knew a player who had a brother who owned a stingray just like it...in fact it not only looked like mine but sounded just like mine...and he wondered why I never kept mine. Great basses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Dunky Posted September 13, 2014 Author Share Posted September 13, 2014 [quote name='MikanHannille' timestamp='1410636645' post='2551545'] http://youtu.be/Kxkoxb5rDF4 The Musicman tone I'm after. [/quote] Oooo that is some tone!! I'd like it a tiny bit less 'rattley" but apart from that it's near perfect. It seems my thread has stirred some passion, I thought it might but everyone play nice, ok? :-p by sheer coincidence, I watched that Louis Johnson video about two hours ago. That man is a monster bassist. The bit where he's slapping with his index finger is particularly nuts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerster135 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 [quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1410635210' post='2551534'] Well here is Cass Lewis playing a Cutlass live in 1995 only months after forming the band so you better ask him again [media]http://youtu.be/LY9G2bNd8eo[/media] Obviously that does not prove the album was not recorded with a wooden necked Ray but as we are [i]clearing things up[/i], lol. I know Flea went to a trans Ray, his main bass before getting well known here, thats why I said [u]Debut[/u] stuff, and the Wal thing has been known for a long while, fwiw his best sound was his early Modulus days IMO. As for Tim C how do we know he used a trans era Ray on the album but not live? Just curious as he appears very connected to his pre EB bass, gaining the Badass bridge and the smooth pickup over the early ratm years. Ta [/quote] Definitely made myself look a bit of a plum with the RATM comment...Definitely a modified pre-EB (no body contour), I just kind of assumed it was a transition one because of the era. Whoops! Bit pedantic but I'd still say Flea didn't debut with a Cutlass. He did use a pre-EB Stingray, but switched over to the Cutlass live to get away from the neck stability issues he was having, so I'd say he [u]debuted[/u] with a Pre-EB Stingray! Agree about his Modulus sound, though my personal favourite is still the Higher Ground intro with a Spector NS-2! Word is that he did record Aeroplane with a Stingray however, possibly using the B/B/R EB Stingray that he was using live at the time. Excellent tone on that song, and great exposure on that solo! Cass was playing in a mate's band when I met him, at the Half Moon in Putney (band was called Asylum, unfortunately didn't last too long!...). He was playing a Cutlass at that gig, and when I asked him about it he said he started collecting them around the time of Stoosh as he had a bit more dosh. I think it's probably the case that he had only that one before, but started [u]collecting[/u] more later, so sorry for confusing things on that one. The reason I mentioned the Stingray on P&S is because I asked him what he used to record Little Baby Swastika specifically, and he said "an old Stingray". Either he was calling his Cutlass a Stingray, or it's possible he actually used his transition Stingray (seen on the Weak video) to record just that song, or the whole album!...Don't know, but that's why I mentioned it! Anyway, apologies for storming in again with false information! Let's get on with celebrating the wonderful tone of the Stingray I would also cite Paul Denman and his lovely 'Ray tone with Sade! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles'tone Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I've seen Gail Ann Dorsey live with Bowie a few times over the years. She gets some nice variations of the signature tone out of her Stingray "Marilyn". That's why it's my fave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmi Clarke Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 (edited) I also love Paul Denmans sound!!! I really like the sound of Louis Johnsons bass on MJ's 'Off the wall' album, it's so nice!!! I had quite a few emails about how I customised my stingray after I was featured in Notreble magazine playing it. (You can see/hear the artical here) http://www.notreble.com/buzz/2014/08/19/jimmi-clarke-teen-town/ So I made a video to talk through what I have changed on the bass. Stingray purists will hate me!!! But I really love the MM stingray. http://youtu.be/tS-tpgPFUpI Edited September 14, 2014 by Jimmi Clarke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highfox Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 [quote name='Jimmi Clarke' timestamp='1410708445' post='2552157'] I also love Paul Denmans sound!!! I really like the sound of Louis Johnsons bass on MJ's 'Off the wall' album, it's so nice!!! I had quite a few emails about how I customised my stingray after I was featured in Notreble magazine playing it. (You can see/hear the artical here) [url="http://www.notreble.com/buzz/2014/08/19/jimmi-clarke-teen-town/"]http://www.notreble....arke-teen-town/[/url] So I made a video to talk through what I have changed on the bass. Stingray purists will hate me!!! But I really love the MM stingray. [media]http://youtu.be/tS-tpgPFUpI[/media] [/quote] Sounding very sweet Jimmi, a Ray that does everything and some nice chops to boot. I'll set myself a goal of trying to work out your jazz turnaround, I keep giving up on the theory but still determined to get it one day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahpook Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcyfPXF770U Bass comes in at ~20sec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 [quote name='bakerster135' timestamp='1410706761' post='2552141'] Definitely made myself look a bit of a plum with the RATM comment...Definitely a modified pre-EB (no body contour), I just kind of assumed it was a transition one because of the era. Whoops! Bit pedantic but I'd still say Flea didn't debut with a Cutlass. He did use a pre-EB Stingray, but switched over to the Cutlass live to get away from the neck stability issues he was having, so I'd say he [u]debuted[/u] with a Pre-EB Stingray! Agree about his Modulus sound, though my personal favourite is still the Higher Ground intro with a Spector NS-2! Word is that he did record Aeroplane with a Stingray however, possibly using the B/B/R EB Stingray that he was using live at the time. Excellent tone on that song, and great exposure on that solo! Cass was playing in a mate's band when I met him, at the Half Moon in Putney (band was called Asylum, unfortunately didn't last too long!...). He was playing a Cutlass at that gig, and when I asked him about it he said he started collecting them around the time of Stoosh as he had a bit more dosh. I think it's probably the case that he had only that one before, but started [u]collecting[/u] more later, so sorry for confusing things on that one. The reason I mentioned the Stingray on P&S is because I asked him what he used to record Little Baby Swastika specifically, and he said "an old Stingray". Either he was calling his Cutlass a Stingray, or it's possible he actually used his transition Stingray (seen on the Weak video) to record just that song, or the whole album!...Don't know, but that's why I mentioned it! Anyway, apologies for storming in again with false information! Let's get on with celebrating the wonderful tone of the Stingray I would also cite Paul Denman and his lovely 'Ray tone with Sade! [/quote] Haha that makes sense then, thing is we can only take what someone else says they used on a record with a pinch of salt cant we, I forget what day it is never mind which bass I recorded certain things with, I have read many times that to get the killer Stuart Zender typical can only be a Warwick sound you use the pink 5 string Stingray he used for recording, lol As for flea, the Cutlass is in the 1984 album sleeve with live pictures from the very first gigs using it, its actually in cartoon form on the front cover, I know im sad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 [quote name='Jimmi Clarke' timestamp='1410708445' post='2552157'] I also love Paul Denmans sound!!! I really like the sound of Louis Johnsons bass on MJ's 'Off the wall' album, it's so nice!!! I had quite a few emails about how I customised my stingray after I was featured in Notreble magazine playing it. (You can see/hear the artical here) http://www.notreble.com/buzz/2014/08/19/jimmi-clarke-teen-town/ So I made a video to talk through what I have changed on the bass. Stingray purists will hate me!!! But I really love the MM stingray. http://youtu.be/tS-tpgPFUpI [/quote] I like it, even though I always say the stingray tone is more about the pup and preamp rather than the neck, bridge and body somehow it does retain some stingray fizziness even on the front pickup with no active preamp. I like to see a bass being enjoyed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The fasting showman Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I must add Kim Clarke's bass on Defunkt's 'Thermonuclear sweat' as a great Stingray sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Dunky Posted September 14, 2014 Author Share Posted September 14, 2014 JimmiClarke your playing is fabulous dude! Very very nice. Great tone also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocco Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 If I'm being honest, this one. http://youtu.be/rPu9mLfLoOA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witterth Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Pino Palladino, on "I assassin" and "no parlez" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi 2 kenobi Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 (edited) Also add Louis Johnson on the Brothers Johnson album Blam from 1978. Every track with a stingray. High in the mix. Reason I bought a ray in the first place. Somebody mentioned Kim Clarke of Defunkt. Check out In America album. Edited September 15, 2014 by obi 2 kenobi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4 Strings Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 [quote name='tbonepete' timestamp='1410589502' post='2550996'] Bernard Edwards. ray4 into?. That's my stingray tone heaven. [/quote] Into the desk I would have thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toneknob Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 (edited) Tony Levin on Secret World Live in 1993 [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inwX_c0PcjY#t=165"]http://www.youtube.c...wX_c0PcjY#t=165[/url] Keep your eye on TLev at about 3m40s. You can see something fall off his Trace Elliot amp. Happens to the best of us I suppose. Edited September 15, 2014 by toneknob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulo m Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 LOUIS JOHNSON...STOMP" CLASSIC' LISTEN HE'S ALL OVER..MICHAEL JACKSON'S OFF THE WALL' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serginhobass Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 I love the musicman 5 tone and this is a great example. The video quality is not great but you can check the whole bass and drums part of the song. It is an Brazilian band called Charlie Brown Jr. Check it out: http://youtu.be/koWRs72eScM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsixties Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 This is the epitome of the Stingray tone for me, a '89 example: [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYUMYQxKWeo"]https://www.youtube....h?v=PYUMYQxKWeo[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmi Clarke Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Cheers for your comments guys!! Forgot to mentions Pino's fretless!!!! plus Tony Levin on sledgehammer!! That's a classic stingray sound!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 [quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1410622236' post='2551368'] As the Stingray did not come out until 1976 anything pre 1976 is Fender, from the 1976 album 'Day at the Races' onwards there is Ray usage scattered here and there between P basses fretted and fretless if you listen/watch. 1976 'Day At The Races Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy and Tie Your Mother Down, 1977 'News of the world' We Are The Champions, 1978 'Jazz' Fat Bottomed Girls, 1980's 'The Game' Another Bites the Dust, [/quote] I'd be surprised if that's the Stingray on Lover Boy and Tie Your Mother Down. Sounds a lot more like the P to me. I think Deacy's defining Stingray moment is Mustapha. Aleikum Salaam! http://youtu.be/Oq6OoPB5FIM I'm afraid I've only ever really enjoyed the 'ray sound when played with a pick and preferably drop-tuned - it's always sounded a bit too spanky for me when played fingerstyle (I can't stand that RATM tone). I like these: http://youtu.be/dl60yuTJXZg http://youtu.be/zf_oLG-GnpU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subbeh Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Always liked the tone Roger from Less Than Jake gets from his Ray [media]http://youtu.be/dZD2dXLSw7M[/media] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikanHannille Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 [quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1410636947' post='2551549'] That is what my black SR5 sounds like, the bass in the clip being a Sterling it has a pickup selector and the ceramic pickup like some SR5s (1993-2007ish?), she is an untameable beast but what a beast she is [/quote] I should've gone for a Sterling on my first Musicman purchase. I never really got on with my Stingray sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Dunky Posted September 16, 2014 Author Share Posted September 16, 2014 [quote name='MikanHannille' timestamp='1410856188' post='2553802'] I should've gone for a Sterling on my first Musicman purchase. I never really got on with my Stingray sadly. [/quote] Was it to do with neck radius? I was surprised at just how thick the necks are, definitely not the most playable of beasts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi 2 kenobi Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 [quote name='The fasting showman' timestamp='1410642019' post='2551621'] "Back to the OP, I always think it sounds like a Stingray on 'Ashes to ashes' by Bowie, though I've only ever seen George Murray use a P bass or a Travis Bean. Definitely one on 'State of independence' by Donna Summer" Martin [/quote] State of Independence = Louis Johnson yet again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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