The Who, Pino and Zak

[TimR]

New song from "The Who".

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-29374342

Could be interesting.

[discreet]

Pino and Zak? They're just substitutes. Yes, I'm going...

[TimR]

Ta Da!

Roger was interviewed on Radio 2 a few years ago. Apparently Zak spent time with Keith learning drums when he was very small. They've tried other drummers but all tended to be "four to the floor merchants", "Zak is perfect for the band".

[TimR]

Although according to Wikipedia Keith was his Godfather and only gave him his first drum kit and they never actually sat at a kit together.

There you go.

Edited September 26, 2014 by TimR

[ezbass]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlEHqMuG2OI

[Marvin]

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Pino and Zak? They're just substitutes. Yes, I'm going...
[/quote]

I can't explain how poor that joke is...anyway, anyhow, anywhere I've Had Enough

[Happy Jack]

I can't help but feel that I should have a presence on this thread.

You'll never prevent me from being Happy.

[Marvin]

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I can't help but feel that I should have a presence on this thread.

You'll never prevent me from being Happy.
[/quote]

Who are you

[inthedoghouse]

[quote name='Marvin' timestamp='1411745102' post='2562502']
I can't explain how poor that joke is...anyway, anyhow, anywhere I've Had Enough
[/quote]
So We Won't Get Fooled Again

[inthedoghouse]

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Who are you
[/quote]
I Can't Explain

[Oopsdabassist]

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Who are you
[/quote]

Baba?

[JamesBass]

[quote name='Marvin' timestamp='1411745726' post='2562509']
Who are you
[/quote]
If you look behind his blue eyes, there's a label that tells you.

[TimR]

Zak is almost there but I think neither he nor Pino are wild enough, just a little bit too precise and a little bit too cautious with their playing.

There are plenty of places where the OX would have been throwing in tasteful and tuneful licks that just sound empty to me. The interplay is missing.

However it's a catchy little pop tune.

[ezbass]

I find it a bit Who By Numbers (as a pun and literally) almost as if all the elements of their previous work was fed into a program and this was spat out. The lyrics are a bit trite for my tastes too with the 'pop' references, a bit like Pete is trying to be down with the kids.

[Cosmo Valdemar]

It's not bad. Totally lacking in excitement though. It reminds me of a cross between "Did You Steal My Money" and "Keep On Working".
And we can praise Pino as much as we like, he's still wildly unsuitable for the job.

[TimR]

Sounds like Pete doesn't want the old bass back.

http://thewho.com/blog/2012/06/22/john-entwistle/

Edited September 26, 2014 by TimR

[Geddys nose]

I always thought someone like Bill Sheehan would be a better choice and someone like Dave Grohl on drums just for his power and aggression, I think Townsend likes his new lead role too much to step back like he did with Moon and JE though.

[JimBobTTD]

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...a bit like Pete is trying to be down with the kids.
[/quote]

That was only for research purposes.

[kevin_lindsay]

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[Cosmo Valdemar]

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I want one!

[taunton-hobbit]

Just had a listen on UTube - very tame, none of the aggression of Generation or Can't Explain: shame, but we all get old(er).............

[ezbass]

[quote name='JimBobTTD' timestamp='1411794457' post='2562842']


That was only for research purposes.
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Edited September 27, 2014 by ezbass

[Wolverinebass]

[quote name='Geddys nose' timestamp='1411765444' post='2562698']
I always thought someone like Bill Sheehan would be a better choice and someone like Dave Grohl on drums just for his power and aggression, I think Townsend likes his new lead role too much to step back like he did with Moon and JE though.
[/quote]

Sheehan maybe, possibly even James LoMenzo wouldn't be a bad choice but it'll never happen. Pino not only in sound but technique is just the wrong person and always will be. A great fusion fretless player but just awful for this situation. Pete doesn't want that style back as he's happy with the way things have changed. Pity that by doing that it destroyed all that was great that was left about the band much in the same way that Kenney Jones was the wrong choice to replace Keith Moon.

Dave Grohl on drums would be all wrong as he's from the John Bonham school rather than the Keith Moon school. I saw the Who in November 2000 and I'll never see a better gig. Ever. Zak Starkey would have been 35 then. He's now cracking on for 50 and playing drums in the Keith Moon style is somewhat strenuous to say the least. Besides the straightness of the new song in itself doesn't give one much space to work with.

The song in itself is crap. Just utter crap. It wouldn't even get on Face Dances which is what it sounds like an off cut from.

[SteveK]

It was the COMBINATION of Townshend, Daltrey, Entwistle and Moon that made The Who one of the greatest, most exciting rock bands ever. Entwistle and Moon's contribution in terms of sheer musical abandonment was invaluable and [u]is[/u] irreplaceable. Nobody else, however great the musicianship, would be right for The Who.
Thought Be Lucky was ok though... while it was obviously Townshend and Daltrey, it kind of reminded me of XTC

[discreet]

[quote name='SteveK' timestamp='1411825280' post='2563096']
It was the COMBINATION of Townshend, Daltrey, Entwistle and Moon that made The Who one of the greatest, most exciting rock bands ever. Entwistle and Moon's contribution in terms of sheer musical abandonment was invaluable and [u]is[/u] irreplaceable. Nobody else, however great the musicianship, would be right for The Who.
[/quote]

Plus about a billion. It's the magic that happens when a band is greater than the sum of its parts.