Roland Rock Posted October 23, 2014 Posted October 23, 2014 "Sansamp" - does it mean 'sans' as in 'without'? Was it designed to be used instead of an amp? Does anyone actually pronounce it the French way, like you would 'Médecins Sans Frontières'? Quote
CamdenRob Posted October 23, 2014 Posted October 23, 2014 I always assumed it meant sans as in "without an amp"... Quote
Roland Rock Posted October 23, 2014 Author Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) Maybe that's why Tech21 have never made it into a full bass head - the sheer paradoxity would make it explode* *or implode, I don't know, I'm not a real scientist Edited October 23, 2014 by Roland Rock Quote
Beer of the Bass Posted October 23, 2014 Posted October 23, 2014 [quote name='Roland Rock' timestamp='1414067996' post='2585426'] Maybe that's why Tech21 have never made it into a full bass head - the sheer paradoxity would make it explode! [/quote] They do make guitar combos, but they leave the Sansamp name off. Quote
zero9 Posted October 23, 2014 Posted October 23, 2014 I thought it meant Silly A**se No Sodding Amp Quote
ras52 Posted October 23, 2014 Posted October 23, 2014 [quote name='Roland Rock' timestamp='1414067996' post='2585426'] Maybe that's why Tech21 have never made it into a full bass head - the sheer paradoxity would make it explode* *or implode, I don't know, I'm not a real scientist [/quote] So if bass player plays though a Sansamp amp in the forest... Quote
visog Posted October 23, 2014 Posted October 23, 2014 No. paradoxically they do make bass amps - witness the signature dug model which looks pretty tasty: http://www.tech21nyc.com/products/amps/bass/dugvt1000.html Quote
allighatt0r Posted October 23, 2014 Posted October 23, 2014 Yes, but it doesn't say Sansamp on it. Quote
Truckstop Posted October 23, 2014 Posted October 23, 2014 Well, yeah. It's just a Pre, isn't it? Truckstop Quote
wateroftyne Posted October 23, 2014 Posted October 23, 2014 In France, the SansAmp is marketed as 'WithoutAmp'. Maybe. If it isn't, it should be. Quote
Roland Rock Posted October 23, 2014 Author Posted October 23, 2014 OK, so it means 'Without Amp'. Brushing aside the fact that a preamp is, at the very least symantically speaking, an amp, what's the rationale behind the name? Is it aimed towards the studio market, saying that it's just as good as a mic'ed up amp? Quote
simon1964 Posted October 23, 2014 Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) [quote name='Roland Rock' timestamp='1414077655' post='2585606'] OK, so it means 'Without Amp'. Brushing aside the fact that a preamp is, at the very least symantically speaking, an amp, what's the rationale behind the name? Is it aimed towards the studio market, saying that it's just as good as a mic'ed up amp? [/quote] My understanding (from memory!) is that when it was first marketed it was the first DI to have built in amp modelling. So you could ditch your amp and go straight into the desk either live or recording. A routine idea now, but quite new at the time. Edited October 23, 2014 by simon1964 Quote
Beer of the Bass Posted October 23, 2014 Posted October 23, 2014 [quote name='Roland Rock' timestamp='1414077655' post='2585606'] OK, so it means 'Without Amp'. Brushing aside the fact that a preamp is, at the very least symantically speaking, an amp, what's the rationale behind the name? Is it aimed towards the studio market, saying that it's just as good as a mic'ed up amp? [/quote] The original Sansamp was intended for recording guitars direct in the studio, so that's exactly what they were going for with the name. Quote
ahpook Posted October 23, 2014 Posted October 23, 2014 [quote name='Roland Rock' timestamp='1414077655' post='2585606'] OK, so it means 'Without Amp'. Brushing aside the fact that a preamp is, at the very least semantically speaking, an amp, what's the rationale behind the name? Is it aimed towards the studio market, saying that it's just as good as a mic'ed up amp? [/quote] I think it's supposed to be a alternative to a mic-ed up amp, whether you consider it 'as good as' is a matter of opinion. Quote
chrismuzz Posted October 23, 2014 Posted October 23, 2014 Maybe they should bring out a head and call it AvecAmp Quote
dincz Posted October 23, 2014 Posted October 23, 2014 "Zonder verstarker" and "bez zesilovače" were probably close contenders but I think "Sansamp" has the edge. Quote
mcnach Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 [quote name='simon1964' timestamp='1414077955' post='2585611'] My understanding (from memory!) is that when it was first marketed it was the first DI to have built in amp modelling. So you could ditch your amp and go straight into the desk either live or recording. A routine idea now, but quite new at the time. [/quote] exactly my recollection too. At the time a few tried speaker or amp simulation for recording directly, without an amp, and sounded terrible. Anyone remember the Marshall DRP-1? Sansamp arrived with the first decent sounding units (for guitar). Quote
tonyquipment Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 [quote name='dincz' timestamp='1414092055' post='2585820'] "Zonder verstarker" and "bez zesilovače" were probably close contenders but I think "Sansamp" has the edge. [/quote] NISCHTAMP DAS GERMANS Quote
DaytonaRik Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 I had a DRP-1 - it needed a lot of EQing to get a good sound out of it. The JMP-1 made huge inroads into the Marshall DI'd sound, especially with the speaker emulation outputs. Quote
cybertect Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 (edited) [quote name='Roland Rock' timestamp='1414067651' post='2585415']Does anyone actually pronounce it the French way, like you would 'Médecins Sans Frontières'?[/quote] No need to... 'sans' is Middle English word (although borrowed from Old French) dating back to the 14th century. In English, it's pronounced to rhyme with Hans or bans (c.f. 'sans serif font'). Shakespeare: 'All the World's a Stage' monologue from [i]As You Like it[/i] [quote]Last scene of all, That ends this strange eventful history, Is second childishness and mere oblivion, Sans teeth, sans eyes, sans taste, sans everything.[color=#252525][font=sans-serif][/quote][/font][/color] [color=#252525][font=sans-serif] [/font][/color] Edited October 24, 2014 by cybertect Quote
ras52 Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 Sans taste... as in: [quote] All the gear, no idea [/quote] Quote
skankdelvar Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 [quote name='cybertect' timestamp='1414165547' post='2586659'] In English, it's pronounced to rhyme with Hans or bans (c.f. 'sans serif font'). [/quote] Nice to see someone using cf. here on the forum. We don't get enough of that sort of stuff. Quote
ras52 Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 [quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1414169824' post='2586719'] Nice to see someone using cf. here on the forum. We don't get enough of that sort of stuff. [/quote] I may have used it in some of my posts, q.v. Quote
ahpook Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 [quote name='ras52' timestamp='1414189379' post='2587050'] I may have used it in some of my posts, q.v. [/quote] Citations, that's what we want to see... Quote
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