Thunderbird Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Nice basses Mark I have been a bit interested in the classic 4 for a while now so will be watching to see how you get on with it I have never been a Spector kinda guy but with all the recent gear changing I have been doing could be worth a try lol only thing that bothers me is the weight as some people say they are nice and light but others seem to think they are a bit heavy and not having anywhere nearby to try I would be buying blind and it is a good old whack of dosh to lose if it aint right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted November 12, 2014 Author Share Posted November 12, 2014 [quote name='The Badderer' timestamp='1415750873' post='2603512'] I too started with a Korean Spector, then a US Spector came up from Eubasix and i couldn't resist. What an amazing thing. So worth it. [/quote] This isn't helping my GAS!! [quote name='Damonjames' timestamp='1415779120' post='2603585'] I am acquiring my second spector today, so expect a NBD post later... [/quote] I look forward to it with bated trousers. [quote name='gary mac' timestamp='1415780280' post='2603597'] Fear not the SB 2 is being well cared for. Lovingly cleaned/polished and even taken out for a change of scene at the weekends. [/quote] It's not going to know who it's real Dad is at this rate! Can't I take it to the Zoo every other Sunday?? [quote name='Thunderbird' timestamp='1415783216' post='2603630'] ...only thing that bothers me is the weight as some people say they are nice and light but others seem to think they are a bit heavy... [/quote] Neither bass seems overly heavy Paul, if that's any use to you... certainly no more than your average P Bass I'd say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ticktock Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Not having two brass farthings to rub together and quite liking Spector basses ( nice new basses, by the way ) I torture myself by looking at this picture every so often. Yes, I know it is pink but I LIKE it. http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/Spector_Euro4_Plum_files/top.jpg Bah, can't post pic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted November 12, 2014 Author Share Posted November 12, 2014 [quote name='Ticktock' timestamp='1415788557' post='2603703'] I torture myself by looking at this picture every so often. Yes, I know it is pink but I LIKE it. [/quote] I like it too, but I reckon it's purple! Either way, it's WELL pervy!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Apple Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 The purple battering ram! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Rock Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 [quote name='Billy Apple' timestamp='1415792318' post='2603764'] The purple battering ram! [/quote] FS, Purple Battering Ram, bedroom use only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted November 12, 2014 Author Share Posted November 12, 2014 [quote name='Roland Rock' timestamp='1415795057' post='2603800'] FS Purple Battering Ram, bedroom use only [/quote] Slight buckle rash.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ticktock Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Hahaha.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Apple Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 (edited) Actually, the correct colour term is Purple Plums Edited November 12, 2014 by Billy Apple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Congrats on two stunning basses! Particularly the fiver, I've never seen one of those outside of a magazine! I'm a massive Spector fan, I've owned about ten over the years but sadly have none at the moment. This thread is not helping my addiction one bit. And while I'm here I'll give a little shout of approval for the Rebop line as they seem to be getting a bit of a hard time on here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted November 12, 2014 Author Share Posted November 12, 2014 (edited) [quote name='Cosmo Valdemar' timestamp='1415799123' post='2603879'] Congrats on two stunning basses! Particularly the fiver, I've never seen one of those outside of a magazine! [/quote] Thanks, Ben... and everyone else who made favourable comments about the fiver. I was intending to sell it and use the funds for something else, but it occurred to me just in time that this is in fact the very bass I was looking for... also I have been told that it's quite rare given the unusual pickup configuration. In fact I can find only one other such Legend on teh internetz... and the only other Spector I've seen with the Jazz/Humbucker config is a 2013 NS-type currently for sale here on Basschat. Legends usually have SSD pups and Tonepump Jr, but the fiver has EMG-HZs as found on the Rebop and other Spectors and an active 3-band EQ, which is also unusual. If anyone knows anything more about this bass, i.e. age, history etc. I'd be grateful for the info. As soon as I get some new strings on it I'll record an audio clip and post it up for your edification and delight. Well maybe not delight... Edited November 12, 2014 by discreet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted November 12, 2014 Author Share Posted November 12, 2014 [quote name='Cosmo Valdemar' timestamp='1415799123' post='2603879'] And while I'm here I'll give a little shout of approval for the Rebop line as they seem to be getting a bit of a hard time on here! [/quote] I only pass on unsubstantiated rumour, hearsay and opinion... I've not played a Rebop, but I'd very much like to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted November 12, 2014 Author Share Posted November 12, 2014 (edited) I emailed P J Rubal (Vice-President of Spector) about the fiver and got this reply: Hello - Sounds like our original version Legend5. This bass with some info is shown in our Korean "Archived Import Model" sheet on this page: [url="http://spectorbass.com/older-import-basses.html"]http://spectorbass.c...ort-basses.html[/url] I hope this info helps. have a great week! PJ And sure enough, there it is - looking very dark and a bit sorry for itself... so it's either a 2004 or 2005 model. Also it has an EMG B30 3-Band Circuit, which is news to me. PJ seems very approachable, too. Edited November 12, 2014 by discreet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Apple Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1415820354' post='2604170'] PJ seems very approachable, too. [/quote] Not his pal Duncan tho. A right miserable git Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted November 12, 2014 Author Share Posted November 12, 2014 [quote name='Billy Apple' timestamp='1415820494' post='2604174'] Not his pal Duncan tho. A right miserable git [/quote] Is that an Ant and Dec joke? A bit before my time, I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 A lovely pair you've got there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrammeFriday Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Yes indeed, two absolute stunnas. GAS is really welling up here, too. Always wanted a Spector - and for this I can now blame you as well as Doug Wimbish: [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUw0qksHbZY"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUw0qksHbZY [/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1415784893' post='2603654'] This isn't helping my GAS!! I look forward to it with bated trousers. It's not going to know who it's real Dad is at this rate! Can't I take it to the Zoo every other Sunday?? Neither bass seems overly heavy Paul, if that's any use to you... certainly no more than your average P Bass I'd say. [/quote] Hmmm cheers Mark will see if I can get me paws on one to try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Apple Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1415820781' post='2604177'] Is that an Ant and Dec joke? A bit before my time, I'm afraid. [/quote] [quote name='Marvin' timestamp='1415822837' post='2604215'] A lovely pair you've got there [/quote] Something for everyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted November 12, 2014 Author Share Posted November 12, 2014 (edited) [quote name='GrammeFriday' timestamp='1415823499' post='2604229'] Always wanted a Spector - and for this I can now blame you as well as Doug Wimbish... [/quote] The first and last time I will be referred to in the same sentence as Doug Wimbish... thanks for the link. Edited November 14, 2014 by discreet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Apple Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Is there some history between Spector and Warwick due to the similar shapes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted November 12, 2014 Author Share Posted November 12, 2014 (edited) [quote name='Billy Apple' timestamp='1415826974' post='2604303'] Is there some history between Spector and Warwick due to the similar shapes? [/quote] This from Wikipedia, which I discovered only the other day: [color=#252525][font=sans-serif]'It was well documented that the first versions of the Streamer were near exact copies of the NS-Bass. The Spector NS-Bass was designed by Ned Steinberger for Stuart Spector in 1977, five years before Warwick was formed.[/font][/color] [color=#252525][font=sans-serif]In the May 2012 article titled "Meet Your Maker: Hans Peter Wilfer of Warwick", an interview with Warwick founder and CEO in [i]Bass Player Magazine[/i], the following history is given explaining Wilfer's decision to make copies of the highly sought-after Spector NS-Bass: "'We didn’t see any reason to build Fender copycats, which players could get easily and cheaply from Asia, so we decided to focus only on high-end, innovative instruments.'[/font][/color] [color=#252525][font=sans-serif]In the mid ’80s, the Spector NS was tracking well in the U.S., but these basses proved hard to come by in Europe. H.P. saw that problem as a potential solution for the direction of his company and took up the task of designing his own version of this popular, ergonomically friendly instrument. That venture resulted in Warwick’s first widely successful instrument: the Streamer Stage I.[/font][/color] [color=#252525][font=sans-serif]At the annual Musikmesse Show (Frankfurt, Germany) in 1985, Stuart Spector became aware that a new German-based company was producing exact copies of his now famous NS-Bass. Spector, along with Ned Steinberger, confronted Hans Wilfer and he agreed to pay a licensing fee to both Spector Guitars and Ned Steinberger in return for being able to continue to produce the Streamer without legal action.[/font][/color] [color=#252525][font=sans-serif]Shortly after this agreement was reached, Spector was sold to Kramer Guitars. The new owners had no interest in pursuing Warwick to enforce the licensing agreement and Warwick continued to make the Streamer without any consequence.[/font][/color] [color=#252525][font=sans-serif]In 1990, Kramer became insolvent and filed for bankruptcy. In the wake of their financial failure, Stuart Spector formed Stuart Spector Design, LTD. in 1992. In 1997 after a lengthy court battle, Stuart Spector was awarded the trademark and copyrights to Spector and threatened to sue Warwick to enforce the 1985 license agreement.[/font][/color] [color=#252525][font=sans-serif]The pending litigation was eventually dropped because Warwick had changed the Streamer design and it was no longer an exact copy of the NS-Bass. In time, Warwick has evolved the design of the Streamer while Spector has sought to preserve the classic elements of the NS-Bass. Since 1984 very little has changed regarding the design, electronics and hardware of the Spector NS-Bass, whereas the Warwick Streamer has evolved into its own unique guitar and can no longer be considered a "copy" of the Spector, although it still has some of the general shape of the original.'[/font][/color] Edited November 12, 2014 by discreet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Badderer Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 yeah. Stuart Spector designed the original shape, then Warwick just went ahead and exactly copied it to make the warwick streamer, then there was a lawsuit where stuart spector sued warwick, and i think they came to a settlement when warwick I THINK... pay him some sort of license fee for the shape rather than changing the shape of the warwick. it's something like that anyway. spector are a really cool company to research the beginnings of. Doug Wimbish tells some interesting stories of when he was playing on one of the rolling stones albums and Stuart Spector was designing him a bass (the same one he plays to this day). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Badderer Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 ha!! posted 1 min before me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Badderer Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 i was close from memory wasn't sure if they'd had to change the streamer shape Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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