mep Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Great documentary. I really enjoyed it. Catch it on i-player if you missed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razze06 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Their bass amps may be outdated compared to modern offerings, yet I just got a model 1550 bass cab, and it's excellent. Far better than most cabs in the same class from well respected makes, such as ampeg and Hartke and fender. That is the second excellent Marshall bass cab I owned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taunton-hobbit Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 As far as I'm aware (this came from a reliable source) Marshall shift about a million quids worth of kit a year, so I have a suspicion that they don't actually give a sh*t......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
41.2Hz Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 I happened to watch the doc with my 18-year old daughter; I had to explain to her who all the old farts were! I though the juxtapositioning of footage of Brian Connolly from The Sweet then vs now was a bit unfortunate.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacey Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 (edited) [quote name='taunton-hobbit' timestamp='1417470466' post='2620790'] As far as I'm aware (this came from a reliable source) Marshall shift about a million quids worth of kit a year, so I have a suspicion that they don't actually give a sh*t......... [/quote] If this is a reliable source as you claim, I can not see them lasting that long at all in todays market with such a old school "British" attitude attitude. As I said they are a non entity in bass rig sales, probably because as you mentioned, they dont give a ****. Thats half of the potential band amplifier market lost to competition. Guitar wise, they are also dropping out of the race to companies that are listening to customers. I think you summed it up perfectly if thats an insider, they just don't give a **** that they are losing out the market share. Somewhere else... other companies that do give a **** are listening to customers and putting effort in to making what customers are asking them to produce. Hence we now have 500 Watt+ bass rigs that not only work and sound great but fit in the boot of a Corsa or small hatchback with the bass and lead/effect bag. My own deep feelings is one of somewhat sadness that they have got themselves in to such a mess that they are now a last option for bass amplifiers. Edited December 2, 2014 by spacey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
police squad Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Markbass, Aguilar, etc etc They don't make guitar amps. What's everyone's problem with Marshall not really putting their all into bass amps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacey Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 There is no problem, other than nobody will be buying any. Only a problem for Marshall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepheid Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 I enjoyed the documentary. It's not going to be a problem for Marshall. Bass players are a minority, always have been. I'm pretty sure that the number of P and J basses of all price points and varieties which Fender sell is absolutely dwarfed by the number of Teles and Strats. I suspect sometimes that Gibson (bless 'em) only make basses because Fender do and they feel they ought to keep up appearances - and everyone knows what high esteem their bass products are held in by your average BCer They're still here though, despite their best efforts to self destruct on a semi-regular basis. I just checked and you can't even buy a bass guitar of any kind in Argos at the moment, and you used to be able to. We are truly invisible now. So, fellow bassists - you can sit on the highest horse you like, no-one will see you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonic_Groove Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 [quote name='police squad' timestamp='1417514037' post='2621066'] Markbass, Aguilar, etc etc They don't make guitar amps. What's everyone's problem with Marshall not really putting their all into bass amps. [/quote] Marshall now own Eden so Eden bass stuff is Marshall & marketed by them B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassbiscuits Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Great programme - taped it but ended up watching it anyway and really enjoyed it. Made me want to turn the gain up a bit afterwards, then remembered I don't own a Marshall d'oh.... Cool how a little back room workshop ended up churning out a real cornerstone of rock music. Good work folks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTypeV4 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 I too thought it was great. Hats off to the boys and girls in the factory and RIP, Jim. I have a signed poster from the guitar show in brum years back. Nice to see Charlie Watkins and Ken Bran interviwed too.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 A very enjoyable programme! Nice one BBC4 The Pink Floyd one that was on the same night was cool too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 I had a Marshall practice amp for about 15 years that survived me being sick both over, and in. Switches were a bit crackly afterwards, mind..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassbiscuits Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 [quote name='Conan' timestamp='1417536993' post='2621488'] A very enjoyable programme! Nice one BBC4 The Pink Floyd one that was on the same night was cool too... [/quote] Wasn't it brilliant? Really want to sit and enjoy that whole album properly now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4000 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 [quote name='spacey' timestamp='1417350596' post='2619362'] Where its a factor is staying in business. Orange, Aguilar. Mark bass TC and plenty of others flying out of shops to bass players. Marshall, nowhere to be seen, nobody really even bothers stocking them. Now they have the Chinese links, but like anything British (Rover cars) they just can not get in to the 21st century. Time has stopped and what should be a premium brand is now a range of out of date old school bass amps that really would be better scrapped, get some fresh blood and I have said this before, utilise tube drive pre-amp technology and wire it to a class D power amp and get back in the game. Re-design the cabs, dump celestion speakers and use eminence top range, make smaller stuff, 1x12, 2x12, 2x10, make it all fit together and line up. A real shame that they are no longer a option in the bass market, they need to have a coach trip out and go see and play the competitions amps and come back to the drawing board, but don't only see them, load them in and out of the types of cars musicians have, see how necessity now drives what we buy, gone are the days of band vans, it's what you can carry now in your car. [/quote] I loved the old Superbass heads. I also love Celestions. But then quite honestly I think most modern gear sounds like bollocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbrag Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I had an mb450 head recently and it sounded great I only got rid of it because of size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTypeV4 Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 I've no issue with their bass gear whether it be new or old. Sometimes I wonder if it'd be easier to sack all my current gear, buy an old JMP and a pair of old 15" Celestion loaded W-bins and an old Fender J. Maybe as an alternative rig when I win the lottery then I wouldn't have to sack any of it.. ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casapete Posted June 20, 2015 Author Share Posted June 20, 2015 For anyone who still has n't seen this it is being shown again tonight , Saturday 20th June at 11.50pm, BBC4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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