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So I'm just starting out, bought my guitar today but now I need to buy my amp! On a relatively low budget here, and will upgrade my amp as I progress. Here are 3 amps I've found, I need help choosing the best one!

I'll be just playing at home for my own pleasure. Maybe the occasional jam with one or two people if I get good and am lucky.

In a bit of a rush too and need it by this weekend.

[url="http://www.gear4music.com/Guitar-and-Bass/SubZero-V15B-Vintage-15W-Bass-Combo-Amp/B7P"]http://www.gear4music.com/Guitar-and-Bass/SubZero-V15B-Vintage-15W-Bass-Combo-Amp/B7P[/url]

[url="http://www.gear4music.com/Guitar-and-Bass/Belcat-15W-Bass-Amp/O1Q"]http://www.gear4music.com/Guitar-and-Bass/Belcat-15W-Bass-Amp/O1Q[/url]

[url="http://www.gear4music.com/Guitar-and-Bass/Belcat-25W-Electric-Bass-Amp/8C9"]http://www.gear4music.com/Guitar-and-Bass/Belcat-25W-Electric-Bass-Amp/8C9[/url]

Thank!

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SVT and a pair of 8x10s should do it...

sorry... as a more productive suggestion I wouldn't personally bother with any of those practice amps, they are all going to sound so horrible and honky that it's enough to put you off bass playing altogether :blink: a bass doesnt even sound like a bass through those things they have absolutely no bottom end whatsoever...

I would suggest getting a small mixer or something and using headphones for home practice and then saving up a bit extra for a proper amp when you get around to jamming with some mates :)

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Agreed. If I were you I would look at one of these. You can connect it up and jam along to music.
[url="http://www.stringsdirect.co.uk/effects-recording-c6/headphone-amplifiers-c192/vox-vox-amplug-2-bass-headphone-guitar-amp-p9247/s9495?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=vox-amplug-2-bass-headphone-guitar-amp-voxamplug-bass&utm_campaign=product%2Blisting%2Bads&gclid=CjwKEAiA-5-kBRDylPG5096R8mASJABqEdm4h95xpr-UDqlH8TWkqRbW8hmr-pU41rNMtDXYLi76IhoCsVzw_wcB"]http://www.stringsdirect.co.uk/effects-recording-c6/headphone-amplifiers-c192/vox-vox-amplug-2-bass-headphone-guitar-amp-p9247/s9495?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=vox-amplug-2-bass-headphone-guitar-amp-voxamplug-bass&utm_campaign=product%2Blisting%2Bads&gclid=CjwKEAiA-5-kBRDylPG5096R8mASJABqEdm4h95xpr-UDqlH8TWkqRbW8hmr-pU41rNMtDXYLi76IhoCsVzw_wcB[/url]

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To be honest there's not really a shortcut... your going to need a proper bass amp if you want to play aloud without headphones. Cheapest option would maybe be to look for a decent second hand bass amp in your area?

One of those little practice amps will suffice to make you audible but it really will sound terrible...

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[quote name='cakepop29' timestamp='1418230520' post='2628243']
Okay... how about the Vox AC1 RhythmVOX bass amp? Y'know, the mini amp...

[url="http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/bass_amps_detail.asp?stock=11069999990203"]http://www.guitargui...=11069999990203[/url]
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Battery powered...will sound weak and puny. Unfortunately decent power 80-100 watts plus and at least 10" speakers generally means a decent sound, Low power and small speakers ( there are expensive exceptions) will generally sound crap. If you have to go with those 3 options you listed, get the 25w one but don't expect it to sound loud enough for anything than solo practicing . It will struggle over a guitar and live drums

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To be honest ive just read a fair bit of bull from others about practice amps there.
There are lots of practice amps that sound perfectly fine and give great low end. Even mark bass do a mini mark and it has plenty of bottom end. And many other companies use small speakers that give decent bottom end too.

And ive jammed with a 25 watt hartke practice amp with an 8 inch speaker and we where fairly loud granted my mates were using amps of similar or lower tubes watts. And we were using a double garage. But you would be surprised how loud a 25w practice amp will go, you will have no headroom meaning the volume will be at pretty much max setting but you can certainly jam using a practice amp. Infact that amp is still at my friends and i still occasionally use it to jam with him. It will not struggle over a guitar or even two or a drummer who can keep it reasonable. People manage to busk ok with a 5w roland cube!.

i would go with the peavey or laney there likely to be better designed. So the peavey 158. If you live in County durham you could of had for free my old Carlsbro 90bg combo which would see you through practice and jam sessions. Its also done small gigs apprently!.

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[quote name='zero9' timestamp='1418241998' post='2628414']
Do you have anything at home you can plug a bass into, such as a hifi, or some computer speakers? These would be fine for low volume practice, however, you may need either a small mixer or interface in between
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I was just going to suggest this, or specifically running through a computer with some speakers. Not tried this myself but I know others here have done so. Just be aware that bass is punishing for speakers, and the merest hint of buzz, fuzz or any other nasty noise should have you turning down and/or reducing the bass frequencies.

Any particular reason why it's got to be this weekend, other than sheer excitement? You can do much better than a little practice amp for less than £100 if you can wait and save, using your PC/speakers in the meantime. If you can't wait I'd look at a Peavey Micro Bass, which are cheap and plentiful second hand. They were a solid recommendation on here for those looking for practice amps until they were discontinued a few years ago.

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Oh forgot to mention look at cash generator online ive bought basses and recently an amp from there they all came next day too and the postage tends to be really cheap, ive seen some ok little practice amps on there. Also cash converters online never used them as they seem expensive but worth a look.

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I think you should buy this one out of the options you've given because its more powerful than the others and should give you a better sound because of it.

[url="http://www.gear4music.com/Guitar-and-Bass/Belcat-25W-Electric-Bass-Amp/8C9"]http://www.gear4music.com/Guitar-and-Bass/Belcat-25W-Electric-Bass-Amp/8C9[/url]

I'd personally ignore anyone telling you to play through a computer or headphones because you'll still need to invest in decent speakers/headphones and still not get a decent sound because they're not made for playing a bass guitar through...AND more importantly you wont experience the coolest part of playing bass and thats making the whole room vibrate!!

As a beginner, you dont need anything fancy or amazing guitar tone because at the end of the day you're going to be playing to the mirror in your bedroom. If you then decide you like it so much you want to start gigging, then I would start looking at more expensive stuff because at the moment you dont know if you're going to enjoy it or not, so for now keep it simple, BASS > LEAD > AMP.

Find some easy songs you want to learn (which is pretty easy to do on bass) and just play!

Until you know what you're looking for and looking at I wouldnt buy anything secondhand unless you had someone to go with you that knows what to look for and know if somethings dodgy or has been abused.

Keep it simple now, you dont want to have a headache before you even play the thing!

Buy an amplifier...

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But, if I did go pre-owned these are also options:

[url="http://www.cashgenerator.co.uk/product-guitar-amplifiers/hartke-b20-20-watt-bass-amplifier-black-BL18635"]http://www.cashgenerator.co.uk/product-guitar-amplifiers/hartke-b20-20-watt-bass-amplifier-black-BL18635[/url]

[url="http://www.cashgenerator.co.uk/product-amplifiers/laney-hardcore-max-30w-amp-BL21496"]http://www.cashgenerator.co.uk/product-amplifiers/laney-hardcore-max-30w-amp-BL21496[/url]

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You don't actually specify a budget, as far as I can see. As others advise, you can't generally get decent sound out of small, cheap bass amps (you need to move air and cleanly for low frequencies and that takes a bit of power/quality). If you can stretch to it, the smaller EBS combos are nice and the advantage of buying something better is that you can recoup part of the cost when you upgrade. The amps you suggest will get you virtually nothing back on resale, I'm afraid. I'd steer clear of pawnshops, too. They don't give stuff away. eBay a better bet. Good luck.

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The issue isn't with the model of practice amp your looking at, I would imagine that all the models you've put links up for are of a similar quality. The issue is that practice amps are on the whole pretty rubbish. They will have no low end whatsoever and are therefore rather pointless as a means of amplicifation...

They will of course enable you to hear yourself playing though and if that is your sole aim just get the cheapest one you've found :)

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Yeh, i think as a beginner to bass, i wouldnt get too concerned with the intricacies of what frequencies you'll hear etc.
Get a small amp and speaker like the ones you've suggested, and just play.
Play along to songs, play anything at all, just experiment and see if you feel the bass is something you'll enjoy.
If you do get hooked, thats when you can start concerning yourself about the quality of your sound.
For now, IMO, just get something cheap, that allows you to hear yourself. And enjoy :)

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