tonybassplayer Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Tried to get tickets recently to take my middle daughter to see One Direction who she is totally absorbed with but like many others I was unsuccessful and it was "Sold Out" Well excuse my French but that is total and absolute f*****g b****x as the net including ebay is awash with stupidly over priced tickets. These companies have obviously had the chance to block purchase tickets and then sell them on at stupid money. It really p****s me of that there is not a centralised point that all tickets are sold direct to the general public ( also known as the fans who put them there ) I know my rant won't change things but it just annoys me that such a parasitical industry is allowed to profiteer on people. The original prices are stupid enough but these others are ludicrous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leschirons Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Unfortunately nothing will change whilst there are people who will pay any ridiculous price. It's even more of a shame as it's for your daughter. Best of luck anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmo Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 It annoys me as well. I tried to get tickets for Kate Bush for a mate who was away. As everyone knows, Ticketmaster was sold out in miinutes. I scanned other outlets and found Get Me In. There were tickets on sale within minutes for £800 on the site. I then found that Get Me In is a place where people sell tickets, and it is ran by Ticketmaster. So they get a cut of the original, then another cut for touting. Seems that they are the biggest touts in the industry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammers Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 This gets to me too, though the government is leaving up to the "industry" to govern itself but as you pointed out they're profiting from it so nothing will change and it really is the fans loosing out. Though I did get royal blood tickets recently and there was an explicit warning saying that your name would be printed on the tickets and you wouldn't be let in without some form of ID. Which is some sort of progress, I guess? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drax Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 The whole 'ticket purchaser must be present with ID & booking credit card' cr*p that some promoters have launched to try and combat touts has simply jacked the tout prices and kept out a lot of real fans. O2 do this frequently. Personally I've enjoyed lots of gigs where I've paid more than face value for - but at these 'card holder present' gigs, the spare tickets are scarcer, and so way more expensive. Touts will always exist, it's a shame that for many gigs only a very small wealthy elite (or people with more money than sense) can now afford to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sykilz Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I've purchased tickets for gigs where they tell you to take your original credit card etc. on a couple of occassions, and have done so, but have never actually been required to produce the credit card. Guess the touts know this. I really can't be bothered with big gigs now, would have liked to go to Foo Fighters next summer, but the already ridiculously high prices and inevitable fast sell out means it'll be a hell of a lot of money to stand in an echoey stadium several hundred yards from the action. Bah humbug! Small venues for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamdenRob Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 (edited) In 2009 when Enlgnad hosted the T20 cricket worldcup they had a system where you went online at a specific time (9am I think) on a certain day and you were placed in a queue and told how long it would take you to get to the front to buy tickets (about 4 hours IIRC) I signed up bang on 9am, waited for my four hours only to be told when I got there that all England, India and Pakistan games were sold out... I went on ebay and there were thousands of tickets available at ten times the face value. The event was impossible to buy tickets for, they had obviously all been purchased in advance. It was a farce and the industry needs regulating... If One direction can sell out a venue at the prices the touts are charging then why aren't the venue charging that in the first place? I would if I owned the venue... it's the whole tout thing that pisses people off, feeling like you've been conned... Edited December 12, 2014 by CamdenRob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamdenRob Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 (edited) I wouldn't be surprised if it's a conspiracy between Mr Cowell and the touts... ie. I'll sell you all the tickets at a reasonable face price so it looks like I'm not taking advantage of people with kids desperate to see 1D. Then you sell those tickets on ebay at ten times the face value and bung half the profits into my account in the caymen islands... everyone is a winner.... Edited December 12, 2014 by CamdenRob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamdenRob Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 (edited) ... and yes I am having a bad day. It's raining, the bus was late and overcrowded and the cat bit me when I was tying my shoelaces this morning Edited December 12, 2014 by CamdenRob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Vote with your wallet. Abandon the oversold stadium gigs for people who already have too much money, and try supporting your local bands at local venues. Not an easy thing to explain to a teenaged daughter who wants to see One Direction, but then neither is re-cycling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonybassplayer Posted December 12, 2014 Author Share Posted December 12, 2014 One of the sites I was on yesterday was openly flouting that the face value of the tickets was pretty much half price of their price. The bands must have the power to change this for their tours but interestingly don't seem to want to. My guess is that some go on sale at face value ( plus booking charge so not really face value then ) and the others ( majority ?? ) are sold above face value to the touting companies who then put their chunk on. Just imagine if an airline ticket was advertised for £50 when it was really £87.50 !!! Seem to think this may have been visited before :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 (edited) [quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1418373924' post='2629588']try supporting your local bands at local venues. [/quote] Indeed. I took my seven year old daughter to see a pub blues band last weekend. She really [b][i]got[/i][/b] what the music was about and felt a real kinship with the bald, overweight, dull musicians who were going through the motions and almost staying in time. The long noodling guitar solos in E really impressed her too. It's definitely the way forward. Edited December 12, 2014 by Conan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weststarx Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Its something that makes my blood boil as well... Trouble is if people keep buying these over priced tickets then it will carry on unless they bring in laws or different methods of selling tickets. I say you should have to show your ID matching the name and address on your tickets or have to produce the card you paid for them on upon entry to the venue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 [quote name='Conan' timestamp='1418374383' post='2629596'] Indeed. I took my seven year old daughter to see a pub blues band last weekend. She really [b][i]got[/i][/b] what the music was about and felt a real kinship with the bald, overweight, dull musicians who were going through the motions and almost staying in time. The long noodling guitar solos in E really impressed her too. It's definitely the way forward. [/quote] Yes, it's great when they get started on the roots of it all at an early age, isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number6 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Everyone chillout by going to see the Psychedelic Warlords on the 18th at Camden Underworld.....it will be erm.....psychedelic 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanAxe Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 (edited) This is one of the reasons why I don't bother with big name gigs any more. Others include:[list] [*]Being so far from the stage that you can only 'see' the performers on TV screens. [*]Grossly over-priced refreshments. [*]Grossly over-priced parking. [*]Huge queues to leave the car park. [/list] I have much more fun these days seeing tribute bands. Last weekend I saw a Steely Dan tribute (£0) and Pink Floyd tribute (£5 to charity), and both were excellent. I cycled to the first gig, and (at Mrs Axe's insistence) drove 4 miles to the second, where parking was free. Edited December 12, 2014 by JapanAxe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 [quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1418373924' post='2629588'] Vote with your wallet. Abandon the oversold stadium gigs for people who already have too much money, and try supporting your local bands at local venues. [/quote] All you get around my way is local bands in the local venues. The venues aren't on any of the 'circuits' so to speak. As a result all you get is a diet of folk, punk or the usual covers bands. It doesn't do a lot for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynepunkdude Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I don't think a 1D tribute band will cut it for a girl who is going through the phase most girls do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzodog Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Its obviously become worse since the decline in music sales. Management are looking at other ways to make money and this is it. I agree though that the only way we can vote is with our wallet. I have not been to a 'big' gig for years and have no plans to either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Not much help here and I think you'll spend over the top to make your daughter happy..that is entirely understandable but it still stinks. I recently booked for the Royal Albert Hall and the tickets from the usual suspects were nigh on £200 for 2 ... I went direct to RAH and got 2 very god box tickets for £112. But then, again, I could easily vote with my wallet... your teenage daughter isn't going to be of that mind-set... understandably.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subbeh Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 The whole ticket thing is bad enough but when those companies then setup sites for resale it takes it far beyond the piss take it was to begin with. They get paid all over again and some even hold back tickets to sell on a higher price on their resale sites. £&@?!&£ robbing bunch of £&@!s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr zed Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 (edited) Wouldn't it be funny if somebody bought an extra ticket to move on at a profit and nobody bought it. That's the only way that this annoying practice will stop. I was after a couple of Foo Fighters tickets for Manchester next summer. Went on line at the designated time and got them. I could have bought 4, sold two on for twice the price and gone to the concert for no cost to me but IT'S WRONG!!! Give another fan the opportunity to buy tickets to see them at face value. Unfortunately, the next person along may have bought more than he/she needed to sell but that is on their conscience not mine. Unless people stop buying them from the (legal & illegal) touts, this corrupt industry will continue to flourish. It's in our hands people. Don't support them. Edited December 12, 2014 by mr zed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drax Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 If someone can't make it to a gig, you need a legitimate way to sell on the ticket, but if you're of decent values you just cover your costs. I don't begrudge someone a few quid for the admin. Back to the OP - what you often find is the highest resale prices are immediately after the official sale has sold out. As the weeks go on, and these extortionate tickets fail to sell (plus the artist sometimes adds extra dates), there are better prices to be had. Often a few weeks before the tickets are a fraction of the resale value they started at. That said - 1D might be a unique mental world of its own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonybassplayer Posted December 12, 2014 Author Share Posted December 12, 2014 Yes I'm going to take a gamble and tell her we are going to the concert as there are a couple of venues we could do and just keep looking. They seem to be drip feeding new dates in as well so I may have a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billfaro Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 [quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1418373882' post='2629587'] ... and yes I am having a bad day. It's raining, the bus was late and overcrowded and the cat bit me when I was tying my shoelaces this morning [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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