I really want one!!

[JJW]

They are so overpriced, but I am a massive kiss fan and I really want one. Do you think it looks cool? Please don't comment on the stupid/novelty body design.

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/710-53481-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5575090229&toolid=10001&campid=5337531593&customid=&icep_item=291338788862&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229508&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg

[discreet]

I don't think it looks cool to be brutally honest - but then I'm not a massive KISS fan.
However you obviously are, you want one, you're not bothered about the price and you really like it, so I'd say GO FOR IT!!

GAS manifests itself in myriad and unexpected ways. This time last year I would never have considered a Spector, so...

[inthedoghouse]

Hmmm, it would be difficult to comment on whether I think it's cool or not without referring to the body design.

I'm not a Kiss fan either, but even if I was I don't think I could ever see it as cool.

But, each to their own and you're getting bad GAS, go for it :-)

[waynepunkdude]

Ugly and stupid much like Gene Simmons

[HowieBass]

I'll be upfront and say I'm no Kiss fan either so it looks uncool to me also; as it is, I think the chrome ashtray rather spoils the look.

[ras52]

It's certainly eye catching - and I'm not just talking about the price! Go on, make an offer...

[Delberthot]

[discreet]

[quote name='waynepunkdude' timestamp='1419870177' post='2643367']
Ugly and stupid much like Gene Simmons
[/quote]

He speaks very highly of you though, Wayne...

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[ezbass]

[quote name='JJW' timestamp='1419865149' post='2643306']
Do you think it looks cool?

[/quote]
I do not.

I am particularly irritated by the cynical manipulation of the Kiss fan base with this product.

[discreet]

[quote name='ezbass' timestamp='1419871185' post='2643386']
I am particularly irritated by the cynical manipulation of the Kiss fan base with this product.
[/quote]

So am I... [i]but [/i]on the other hand people (including KISS fans) should be free to spend their hard-earned cash however they see fit in our market-led twenty-first century global consumer-capitalist system. So now I'm not sure what to think.

You can be quite sure that however this pans out, the hypocrisy of the situation will sicken me.

[waynepunkdude]

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1419870589' post='2643373']
He speaks very highly of you though, Wayne...
[/quote]

Someone has to

[grunge666]

it's cool...

[PlungerModerno]

Looks very KISS . . . if that's your thing.

It's probably the real deal (one of the high end axes from an unknown source, with a one off paint job).
The ad says: "[font="Verdana"][size="5"][b]GUARANTEED TO INCREASE IN VALUE[/b][/size][/font]"

wow that's big when copied & pasted! in any case if you pay 10k it's definitely not guaranteed to increase in value.
Could be worth a lot, but only bid if you have the disposable income. I wouldn't consider it an investment, even if it had been played by Mr. Simmons...

YMMV of course!

[Woodinblack]

Looks like one of those comedy ones you get on Ali Express.

If that is what you like then get it, I can't imagine it ever being worth anything, but if you have the money and want it then go for it.

[Thunderbird]

I am a huge Kiss fan but really do not like the design of this bass and think it is over priced I would rather have a Punisher

[Joeyfivebags]

Is it just me or are there not pictures of three different paint jobs in that advert?

[Bassassin]

[quote name='Thunderbird' timestamp='1419922034' post='2643925']
I am a huge Kiss fan but really do not like the design of this bass and think it is over priced I would rather have a Punisher
[/quote]

I think the Punisher (especially the original through-neck) is a really good-looking bass. Ironically the only reason I wouldn't have one is that I'm not a huge Kiss fan.

That & the neck-dive.

Jon.

[JJW]

The only reason the axe and the punisher basses neck dive Is because of the location of strap button, i moved my strap buttons and they don't neck dive anymore.

[PlungerModerno]

As I interpret it, neck dive is about how you wear the bass - where the center of gravity lies: between the strap buttons - or outside them.

If the center of gravity is too close to the neck strap button - It feel neck heavy - the bass can either be held at a steep angle, or supported with the fretting hand...
Things like moving strap buttons, using grippy straps, and using lighter tuners can definitely make a bass that feels neck heavy balance better.

If I have my trivia right, the widely available punisher and axe basses are different to the ones used by Mr. Simmons - both where the strap buttons are, what is wired to the output jack, and the strap button fixings (a strap is built into the costume, with eyelets instead of strap buttons that clip into the costume).

I'm not really a KISS fan - but it's hard not to take an interest in such a high profile player.

[Bassassin]

Neck-dive is really just an inherent feature of any 34" scale symmetrical body bass - the reason your Ps, Js & other asymmetrical basses don't dive so much is just the way the weight's redistributed by sticking the top button out near the 12th fret. It's much less of a problem on shortscale basses.

I've got a couple of lovely symmetrical-body basses that hardly ever get out because I find supporting the neck awkward. Perhaps I should copy Mr Simmons & build something into my clothes to support it.

And maybe get some Godzilla boots, too...

J.

[PlungerModerno]

[quote name='Bassassin' timestamp='1420040631' post='2645092']
Neck-dive is really just an inherent feature of any 34" scale symmetrical body bass - the reason your Ps, Js & other asymmetrical basses don't dive so much is just the way the weight's redistributed by sticking the top button out near the 12th fret. It's much less of a problem on shortscale basses.

I've got a couple of lovely symmetrical-body basses that hardly ever get out because I find supporting the neck awkward. Perhaps I should copy Mr Simmons & build something into my clothes to support it.

And maybe get some Godzilla boots, too...

J.
[/quote]

Well it depends on the symmetrical shape: if it's like a les paul bass shape, it'll need a heavy body or it will neck dive.
In the case of fender style basses (34", J or P) they have the upper horn to compensate for the variable body weight and often fairly heavy machine head.

With a few tweaks almost any bass can be more playable standing up - but you may need super light tuners, a grippy strap, and even a strap button extender.
I've seen weight pouches incorporated into straps - but that'll be only ideal for the very strong or those with extremely light basses (or very short sets!).
Extreme mods like body chambering or neck shaving can probably do a lot - but only on the correct basses.


In any case you might find a solution for some of the worst of the neck dive. A steel tube moving the strap button would be my personal approach - after the ultralight tuner experiment! (take one tuner off, weigh it, compare to light tuner weights, then simulate the weight of a set of ultralight tuners by taking one (or two) off)...

Here's a cool pic for yer viewing pleasure:

Not sure about the Godzilla boots personally!

[tauzero]

[quote name='JJW' timestamp='1419865149' post='2643306']Do you think it looks cool?[/quote]

No. That's definitely trying too hard.