redstriper Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 [size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Hi fellow basschatters, I am looking for advice on behalf of a friend who has a Hartke 4 x 10 cab which has a[color=#141823] farting type sound at certain frequencies and a general lack of power or good clean tone[/color].[/font][/size] [size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Upon examining the drivers, he found one with what looks like a repair - see images below.[/font][/size] [size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Is this likely to be the source of the problem?[/font][/size] [attachment=180236:hartke1.jpg] [attachment=180237:hartke2.jpg] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Quite likely. I've repaired tears, albeit temporarily, using layers of tissue paper and copydex before now but I've never tried using a blob of silicone before. How about taking that driver out of the cab, extending the wires and moving it round the back of the cab? If the farting is just as bad then it's not the problem. If it reduces then it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redstriper Posted January 6, 2015 Author Share Posted January 6, 2015 Thanks Ian - I'll suggest he tries that [size=4] [/size] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 [quote name='redstriper' timestamp='1420575053' post='2650867'] Thanks Ian - I'll suggest he tries that [size=4] [/size] [/quote] No problem. Make sure he reconnects that driver before powering up and trying again though. I don't know what amp he's got or how the cab is wired up so all sorts of nasty weirdness could happen if he doesn't... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redstriper Posted January 6, 2015 Author Share Posted January 6, 2015 Too late.......... he's dead [size=4] [/size] [size=4] [/size] [size=4]Just kidding [/size] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 [quote name='redstriper' timestamp='1420576985' post='2650912'] Too late.......... he's dead Just kidding [/quote] Not that sort of nasty weirdness you berk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redstriper Posted January 6, 2015 Author Share Posted January 6, 2015 The 2 previous owners deny making any repairs or hearing a problem with the cab. Could this driver have left the factory in this state? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 No. Hartke would have just dumped it and fitted a good one. That's a rather sloppy DIY repair done with a tube of silicone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gelfin Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 As Ian said it seems to have silicon smeared on what may have been a tear . With use the silicon wil come unstuck a little bit and let air through it. I know I've tried it. These repairs are generally temporary. They will last longer if you do as Ian said and use tissue layers (not soft like kleenex) and copydex on both sides of the cone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer of the Bass Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 I'd hope it didn't leave the factory that way, but I can just about picture the scenario. 5pm Friday; assembly worker sticks a screwdriver through the cone, is fully aware they should get a new driver from the storeroom and fill in a form, but sod it, they want to get home and the glue gun is already warmed up... I've worked with people with that sort of attitude, so I reckon it's not impossible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redstriper Posted January 6, 2015 Author Share Posted January 6, 2015 Thanks chaps, it sounds like a new driver is in order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 [quote name='Beer of the Bass' timestamp='1420587965' post='2651141'] I'd hope it didn't leave the factory that way, but I can just about picture the scenario. 5pm Friday; assembly worker sticks a screwdriver through the cone, is fully aware they should get a new driver from the storeroom and fill in a form, but sod it, they want to get home and the glue gun is already warmed up... I've worked with people with that sort of attitude, so I reckon it's not impossible! [/quote] I can see your thinking there but the materials are all wrong. You'd use a glue gun to perhaps provide extra support to coils or big hefty resistors on a crossover board. This is clear silicone, the sort of thing that you'd use for waterproofing (think bath sealing or window fitting). I can see a glue gun being to hand but I can't picture a silicone gun loaded with clear silicone being used for anything that Hartke make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Dare Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 The 2 previous owners deny making any repairs or hearing a problem with the cab... As Mandy Rice Davies famously put it, "They would, wouldn't they?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh971 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Hi guys, thanks for your advice. I was the last owner of the cab and have been trying to help the current owner, who is a friend of mine, get to the bottom of what's up with it. I wanted to make sure that this was not a possible factory fault as if it was there may have been a chance Hartke would have replaced it. I've heard great things about their customer support. Looks like the 1st owner must have damaged the driver and bodged a repair (or lent it so someone who did) and the repair has failed. Anyway, I've said to the current owner that I'll go halves on the cost of a new driver to get this properly sorted so it won't recur. Hugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 [quote name='Hugh971' timestamp='1420666596' post='2652045'] Hi guys, thanks for your advice. I was the last owner of the cab and have been trying to help the current owner, who is a friend of mine, get to the bottom of what's up with it. I wanted to make sure that this was not a possible factory fault as if it was there may have been a chance Hartke would have replaced it. I've heard great things about their customer support. Looks like the 1st owner must have damaged the driver and bodged a repair (or lent it so someone who did) and the repair has failed. Anyway, I've said to the current owner that I'll go halves on the cost of a new driver to get this properly sorted so it won't recur. [/quote] Hugh, you're an absolute gentleman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redstriper Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share Posted January 7, 2015 That's very decent of you Hugh [size=4] [/size] [size=4]W[/size][size=4]e'll probably never know who made the repair but hopefully a new driver will fix the problem. [/size] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonBassAlpha Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I'd be tempted to do the repair properly first and see how that works out. But then, I'm a tight git and a bit of a bodger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidder652003 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 [quote name='redstriper' timestamp='1420669583' post='2652104'] That's very decent of you Hugh We'll probably never know who made the repair but hopefully a new driver will fix the problem. [/quote] Im spartacus! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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