Woodinblack Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 It is amazing really - when you look at the videos of all the new things at NAMM, this year is great, there are loads of new things and genuinely good ideas and instruments, I was just watching a video on the Moog 37 updates etc. And Rickenbacker made a bass with dots! w00t! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skej21 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Wow... and people say Fender can't think of anything new! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delberthot Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I had a 4000 years ago. great looking bass but really missed having the neck pickup. I don't fully understand what they mean by "enhanced with a 3.1 mm wider neck" They are also doing it in Midnight Blue so I may have found another contender my 40th birthday bass for August Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted January 24, 2015 Author Share Posted January 24, 2015 You really are a bunch of misanthropes. I'm off Talkbass for a guaranteed warm welcome and enthusiastic, non-judgemental repartee. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsgbass Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 [quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1421928714' post='2666663'] Really? The triangular inlays and chequer binding are two of the things that make Rickenbacker basses stand out visually for me. Without them, they are a bit bland really. [/quote] Yes Sir, totally agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick's Fine '52 Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 [quote name='Musky' timestamp='1422036656' post='2668114'] For a few seconds you had me thinking they'd re-issued the 4005. [/quote] ha, me too!! Absolutely nothing new to see here......., although no surprise at all really is it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick's Fine '52 Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 I'm still unsure if the OP was being sarcastic or not, having read the post again, but i'll assume yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 [quote name='Rick's Fine '52' timestamp='1422210670' post='2669904'] ha, me too!! Absolutely nothing new to see here......., although no surprise at all really is it. [/quote] good opportunity to share a photo of a 4005 though! .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick's Fine '52 Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 [quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1422211373' post='2669910'] good opportunity to share a photo of a 4005 though! .... [/quote] Go on then Luke, I'll oblige; Actually i can't, does anyone know why you can no longer copy images from photobucket onto this site?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afterimage Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 I love the look of the Rickenbacker strangely enough have been listening to a lot motorhead don't laugh not a fan but love then ringing sound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick's Fine '52 Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 [quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1422211373' post='2669910'] good opportunity to share a photo of a 4005 though! .... [/quote] I'll try again Luke(Thanks to some helpful bc folk); Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 [quote name='Delberthot' timestamp='1422124654' post='2669025'] I don't fully understand what they mean by "enhanced with a 3.1 mm wider neck" [/quote] The wider neck is on the 12 string guitar. Rickenbacker 12 strings are notorious for having narrow necks, that's why despite them making a wonderful sound, my electric 12 string isn't a Rickenbacker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted January 26, 2015 Author Share Posted January 26, 2015 [quote name='Rick's Fine '52' timestamp='1422210971' post='2669906'] I'm still unsure if the OP was being sarcastic or not, having read the post again, but i'll assume yes. [/quote] No sarcasm intended! A reissue of a cool old bass, nothing more. It might not seem like much in the grand scheme of things but it's a quantum leap for Rickenbacker... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afterimage Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Nice photo gorgeous bass I mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4000 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I find it terrifying that some people appear to be unaware that there ever were dot-necked, unbound 'S' model Rics previously (Macca, Chris Squire, Entwistle, Pete Quaife, Maurice Gibb, Lemmy, Rutherford and Waters being famous users). I feel so old and marginalised.;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4000 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 BTW, they're going for £1499 pretty much everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted January 26, 2015 Author Share Posted January 26, 2015 [quote name='4000' timestamp='1422297965' post='2670877'] BTW, they're going for £1499 pretty much everywhere. [/quote] I'm 'looking into the finances' as we speak... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted January 26, 2015 Author Share Posted January 26, 2015 [quote name='4000' timestamp='1422297750' post='2670871'] I find it terrifying that some people appear to be unaware that there ever were dot-necked, unbound 'S' model Rics previously (Macca, Chris Squire, Entwistle, Pete Quaife, Maurice Gibb, Lemmy, Rutherford and Waters being famous users). I feel so old and marginalised.;-) [/quote] It's a classic look. Of course this new one is a standard 4003 with a few minor changes, rather than a true 1999 reissue, but I imagine that would have been considerably more expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4000 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 (edited) [quote name='Cosmo Valdemar' timestamp='1422299708' post='2670917'] It's a classic look. Of course this new one is a standard 4003 with a few minor changes, rather than a true 1999 reissue, but I imagine that would have been considerably more expensive. [/quote] It's only a few replacement parts - including a hugely expensive and difficult to obtain genuine horseshoe - away. ;-) FWIW, the '60s RM / S was to the '60s Deluxe what this S is to the current Deluxe. The current 4003 is as different to the '60s 4001 as this is to a '60s RM / S; a '60s RM / S was only a '60s 4001 with a few minor changes. Edited January 26, 2015 by 4000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who's Who Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 [quote name='Rick's Fine '52' timestamp='1422218376' post='2670043'] I'll try again Luke(Thanks to some helpful bc folk); [/quote] So was there more than one model of the 4005. When I google images of the bass, some have no binding, with rounder edges and triangle fret markers. But some have binding, back and front, and dot fret markers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick's Fine '52 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 (edited) [quote name='Who's Who' timestamp='1422344827' post='2671304'] So was there more than one model of the 4005. When I google images of the bass, some have no binding, with rounder edges and triangle fret markers. But some have binding, back and front, and dot fret markers? [/quote] Here ya go, there were apparently some 6 string versions (4005/6), although i've never seen one, and they were basically baritone guitars like the Fender VI, but here's the basses;; [b][u][url="http://www.rickresource.com/rrp/burgundyglo4005.html"][color=#660000]4005[/color][/url][/u][/b] [b]This bass is a hollow body model. Features: Offset double cut semi-hollow away body similar styling to 1965 model 360-375 guitar, single bound edge on the back of the body, unbound rounded front edge, bound cat's eye soundhole, teardrop shaped pickguard, clear plastic finger rest, large crushed pearl triangle inlays, 2 toaster pickups, R tailpiece, 2 volume/2 tone/mix controls. Available only in Fireglo and Mapleglo finishes. 1965 - Introduced 1969 - Headstock shortened 1970 - Colorglo finishes available 1972 - High gain pickups replaced toaster pickups 1973 - Single color (white or black) binding replaced block body binding 1973 - Smaller pearloid inlays replaced crushed pearl large triangle inlays 1974 - Gap in center raised lip of bridge eliminated 1984 - Discontinued[/b] [url="http://www.rickresource.com/rrp/burgundyglo4005.html"][color=#660000][b]4005[/b][/color][/url]S [b]This bass is also known as Rose Morris European export model "3261". Features: Hollow unbound double cut away body similar to model 360 guitar, R tailpiece. Available only in Fireglo and Mapleglo finishes. Un-bound F-Hole sound hole. 1965 - Introduced 1969 - Discontinued [url="http://www.rickresource.com/rrp/4005WB75.html"][color=#660000][size=5]4005WB or 4005OS[/size][/color][/url] This bass is the double-bound version of the 4005 model. Originally this model was called 4005 OS. Bound Cat’s eye soundhole Features: Hollow double bound double cut away body similar to model 360 guitar, R tailpiece. Available only in Fireglo and Mapleglo finishes. 1966 - Introduced 1984 - Discontinued[/b] [b][url="http://www.rickresource.com/rrp/4005lightshow.html"][color=#660000][size=5]4005 LS "Lightshow"[/size][/color][/url] This bass is a special multi-colored light version of the 4005. It is the companion to the 331 model light show guitar. This was a special order item. Catseye soundhole. Features: (1968?) - Introduced (1968?) - Discontinued [/b] [b]4005/8[/b] [b]This bass is the eight-string version of the 4005 model. Features: The headstock was elongated in order to accommodate the 8 tuning machines. 1967 - Introduced 1984 - Discontinued [/b] Edited January 27, 2015 by Rick's Fine '52 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer of the Bass Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 It's bizarre that they haven't brought back the 4005, as there does seem to be some demand. They could make a small run and price it like the 12 string linked earlier and they'd probably still sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacey Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 They have always made this model in one guise or the other. 4003s, v63, 4001cs, same bass with different bits screwed on. However playing wise, the round edges without binding and solid finger board makes for a much more comfortable bass to play. No doubt scores will be along to slag em off for not doing a Fender and turning a blind eye to people ripping off your brand. But like all Ricks, they make what they want when they want and their is always a waiting list for new instruments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 look, I know I'm not a huge rickernbacker [i]fan [/i]as such, even though I dont actually [i]mind [/i]them as such; but they lok exactly like all teh other rickenbackers I've seen. They even less different than a new crop of fenders are Bit disappointed really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted January 27, 2015 Author Share Posted January 27, 2015 Perhaps my thread title was a bit OTT... "Rickenbacker reissue old bass (very similiar to current standard)" probably would have been more appropriate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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