alexclaber Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 [quote name='Aussiephoenix' post='13517' date='Jun 7 2007, 11:47 AM']1 - It does both. a little light goes on saying what the incoming voltage is, but the output voltage is regulated to the machine's standards, in my case, living in Europe, 230V.[/quote] Interesting - few power conditioners do that. Which model is it? Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussiephoenix Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 [quote name='alexclaber' post='14150' date='Jun 8 2007, 12:54 PM']Interesting - few power conditioners do that. Which model is it? Alex[/quote] Thats my point though... POWER CONDITIONERS DON'T do that. VOLTAGE REGULATORS do. Its a Quick Lok SR-1500 (its hard to find info on the web about it.) I tell ya, I was amazed when I started using it, cause its not until then that you realize how much the voltage actually shifts and changes in places you thought "safe". I constantly see the leds change between 220 - 240 and in some places its been as low as 180 and as high as 250v. Even though the amps etc may be ready for that, having a CONSTANT 230v (in my case) feeding the amp has got to be a lot healthier than having too little to too much voltage circling through the components right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 [quote name='Aussiephoenix' post='14190' date='Jun 8 2007, 01:49 PM']Thats my point though... POWER CONDITIONERS DON'T do that. VOLTAGE REGULATORS do. Its a Quick Lok SR-1500 (its hard to find info on the web about it.) I tell ya, I was amazed when I started using it, cause its not until then that you realize how much the voltage actually shifts and changes in places you thought "safe". I constantly see the leds change between 220 - 240 and in some places its been as low as 180 and as high as 250v. Even though the amps etc may be ready for that, having a CONSTANT 230v (in my case) feeding the amp has got to be a lot healthier than having too little to too much voltage circling through the components right?[/quote] Ah, I see. However although it may be useful in Portugal, I really doubt that it would be that beneficial in the UK, where the mains supply is more stable and also centred around 240V, not 220V (although we're all alledgedly on 230V all that changed is the european standard, not the actual voltages). I'm still curious though - how much does it weigh and how much current can it supply? Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazm Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 My latest incarnation: Front [attachment=566:RackFront.JPG] Rear [attachment=567:RackRear.JPG] JTS US-8001D Wireless Receiver Korg DTR 1000 Tuner Behringer MDX2600 Compressor Behringer FBQ1502 EQ (channel 1 used for compressor side chain) DHA VT2 Dual Custom Bass Sound Tech 802 amplifier SWR Working Pro 700 head No money left! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee-Man Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 I have a 8 unit rack that contains: Aguilar DB680 pre Aguilar DB728 power amp Korg tuner (no idea which one) Furman Power Conditioner This is feed in to 2 Aguilar GS410 cabs. I'm also using an Aguilar AG500 for quick load in's, it's very nice considering there are no valves in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Nailed Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 Most UK plugs hover between 220V and 230V and we pay for 230V. And if you saw some of the places I've played, then inconsistent wall current IS a problem let me assure you! You never know what;s running off those sockets, sometimes the PA, monitors and lights are all off the same electrical ciruit and spikes are massively common. Also when you've got drunk folks walking around with beer it's nice to have something keeping your rig from giving a blue flash and going quiet! Plus it provides light and direct EEC to EEC outlets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dood Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 New rig.. ok so I posted it in bass porn too.. Powersoft 2004 TC GForce Trace V-Type with Harma Diamond STR premium drive tested matched [size=1][i]and generally fornicated with [/i][/size]valves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussiephoenix Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 [quote name='alexclaber' post='14299' date='Jun 8 2007, 05:32 PM']I'm still curious though - how much does it weigh and how much current can it supply?[/quote] These are the specs: Input Voltage: de 174 a 263V Frequency: 50/60 Hz Max Current: 9 A Output Voltage: 230V +-3% Frequency: 50/60 Hz Nom. Power: 1500 VA Noise: <40dB Size: rack unit 1x19” Weight: 7Kg [quote name='Dan_Nailed' post='15310' date='Jun 10 2007, 10:32 PM']And if you saw some of the places I've played, then inconsistent wall current IS a problem let me assure you! You never know what;s running off those sockets, sometimes the PA, monitors and lights are all off the same electrical ciruit and spikes are massively common. Also when you've got drunk folks walking around with beer it's nice to have something keeping your rig from giving a blue flash and going quiet! Plus it provides light and direct EEC to EEC outlets.[/quote] Yep, I agree. I'ts very common out here to have fridges, neons etc all connected to the same circuit that will feed the band's equipment. not only will that cause a lot of noise in our equipment as alternators etc turn on and off, as well as making the current very unstable. The way this works, is that it basically stores power, and constantly checks the input and compensates or holds back its reserved power so that you ALWAYS have that constant 230. the equipment works better, there's less noise, etc. mind you, this kind of unit is probably close to useless for someone thats not a gigging musician, but I consider it a must for those who are, and dont want to have nasty surprises... the Bar owner wont pay for your amp if something blows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJW Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 [quote name='Gazm' post='14625' date='Jun 9 2007, 02:21 PM']My latest incarnation: Front [attachment=566:RackFront.JPG] Rear [attachment=567:RackRear.JPG] JTS US-8001D Wireless Receiver Korg DTR 1000 Tuner Behringer MDX2600 Compressor Behringer FBQ1502 EQ (channel 1 used for compressor side chain) DHA VT2 Dual Custom Bass Sound Tech 802 amplifier SWR Working Pro 700 head No money left![/quote] Ever tried running your rig with the behringers taken out of the chain, and then put into the chain? Notice any loss in signal quality? Those things wreak havoc on tone when I use 'em in PA rigs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 [quote name='Gazm' post='14625' date='Jun 9 2007, 02:21 PM']JTS US-8001D Wireless Receiver Korg DTR 1000 Tuner Behringer MDX2600 Compressor Behringer FBQ1502 EQ (channel 1 used for compressor side chain) DHA VT2 Dual Custom Bass Sound Tech 802 amplifier SWR Working Pro 700 head No money left![/quote] You must end up looking like this bloke if you regularly lug that in and out of venues and car boots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazm Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 [quote name='Crazykiwi' post='15476' date='Jun 11 2007, 09:49 AM']You must end up looking like this bloke if you regularly lug that in and out of venues and car boots.[/quote] Which bloke, or has he hauled so much gear he's vanished up his own rig It is a little weighty, but I cheat where I can and give it a lift on a cab with meaty casters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazm Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 [quote name='NJW' post='15471' date='Jun 11 2007, 09:39 AM']Ever tried running your rig with the behringers taken out of the chain, and then put into the chain? Notice any loss in signal quality? Those things wreak havoc on tone when I use 'em in PA rigs.[/quote] I have no problem with them at all. Pete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJW Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 [quote name='Gazm' post='15849' date='Jun 11 2007, 07:57 PM']I have no problem with them at all. Pete.[/quote] Cool. That wasn't a dig at all, I'm just curious as I have never used them in a bass rig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernmeister Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Hi there Gazm hope that you're still coming to the Birmingham bass bash would love to hear how your rig sounds like. Could do with some tips on wiring my rig up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazm Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 [quote name='Bernmeister' post='16062' date='Jun 12 2007, 08:48 AM']Hi there Gazm hope that you're still coming to the Birmingham bass bash would love to hear how your rig sounds like. Could do with some tips on wiring my rig up.[/quote] Yeah I'll be there with rig and hernia Pete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobematt Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 [quote name='Gazm' post='14625' date='Jun 9 2007, 02:21 PM']My latest incarnation: Front [attachment=566:RackFront.JPG] Rear [attachment=567:RackRear.JPG] JTS US-8001D Wireless Receiver Korg DTR 1000 Tuner Behringer MDX2600 Compressor Behringer FBQ1502 EQ (channel 1 used for compressor side chain) DHA VT2 Dual Custom Bass Sound Tech 802 amplifier SWR Working Pro 700 head No money left![/quote] just wondering, do you use your sound tech instead of the power amp in your swr? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazm Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 [quote name='lobematt' post='16162' date='Jun 12 2007, 11:31 AM']just wondering, do you use your sound tech instead of the power amp in your swr?[/quote] The SWR drives a Peavey 4x10, the ST a no brand cab with an Eminence 18" driver. Pete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobematt Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 [quote name='Gazm' post='16165' date='Jun 12 2007, 12:35 PM']The SWR drives a Peavey 4x10, the ST a no brand cab with an Eminence 18" driver. Pete.[/quote] so do u still use the pre from the swr? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazm Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 [quote name='lobematt' post='16214' date='Jun 12 2007, 12:35 PM']so do u still use the pre from the swr?[/quote] Absolutely, hopefully this should help clear things up: [attachment=639:SignalPath.jpg] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobematt Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 [quote name='Gazm' post='16372' date='Jun 12 2007, 05:51 PM']Absolutely, hopefully this should help clear things up: [attachment=639:SignalPath.jpg][/quote] thanks a lot, much clearer =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernmeister Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Hi Gazm, that does clear a few things up, but i'm sure i'll have a few silly questions to ask you at the bass bash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 Mine [attachment=680:amp4.JPG] Korg DTR2000 tuner Eden Navigator pre-amp Vent QSC PLX2402 In the rear i've mounted an ART Isolation Transformer outboard of the DI to avoid any phantom power spikes coming from the desk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJW Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 [quote name='jacko' post='17545' date='Jun 14 2007, 12:44 PM']Mine [attachment=680:amp4.JPG] Korg DTR2000 tuner Eden Navigator pre-amp Vent QSC PLX2402 In the rear i've mounted an ART Isolation Transformer outboard of the DI to avoid any phantom power spikes coming from the desk.[/quote] That's an attractive little rack ya got there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 [quote name='jacko' post='17545' date='Jun 14 2007, 12:44 PM']Mine [attachment=680:amp4.JPG] Korg DTR2000 tuner Eden Navigator pre-amp Vent QSC PLX2402 In the rear i've mounted an ART Isolation Transformer outboard of the DI to avoid any phantom power spikes coming from the desk.[/quote] Nice! A brief heads-up regarding vented blanking panels in racks - if you're unlucky you can end up with circular air flow, with the warm air from the amp exhaust going round and through the vented panel and back into the intake, and this feedback loop continuing until the amp overheats. I doubt you'll ever have a problem but if you do then you know what to do about it. Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShergoldSnickers Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 What's in my rack? The washing up. And in my other rack? The boss. I snapped today. I reckon one more turn and the arms 'll come off. Ooops, now he's snapped as well. If I did have one, a compressor would be mandatory. If I could get some of the effects from GarageBand or Logic Express into a rack I'd have those too and I could get rid of the compressor. Right, I'm off to borrow me mate's MacBook, a shoehorn and a hammer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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