Mornats Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 If the music industry had created Spotify back in the day instead of doing nothing to innovate them maybe downloading music illegally wouldn't have become such a regular and accepted household activity and consumers would value music more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonybassplayer Posted January 22, 2015 Author Share Posted January 22, 2015 I am 56 years old in a fortnight and have been precious about "my albums" since I started collecting them in the early seventies and until recently I thought I still was. They have moved from my mums to Africa with me then back home in the mid eighties then through four serious relationships/marriages and five houses and if I am honest I can't remember the last time I actually played one. I see the boxes twice a year when the xmas stuff comes out then goes back in the loft. Tonight I listened to Made in Japan, Frampton Comes Alive, Moon Madness, Mott the Hoople Live and a A Night at the Opera. What a brilliant night and trip down memory lane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyJohnson Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 If I can add one further note (got to get to bed, early start tomorrow and I've just drunk a frankly delicious bottle of red with dinner), try and get hold of '[i]Appetite for Self Destruction[/i]' by Steve Knopper. It's about four years old now, but still relevant. A fantastic account of the free fall in the global music business and how greed, excess and stupidity killed the record industry. It's the same now. Vinyl, tape, CD, MP3, delivery services. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepheid Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I'm a big fan. Recently made the move to my own premium subscription after borrowing my wife's one for a while, the 99p for three months offer hooked me in. I'm listening to music more than I have been for years, enjoying making up playlists and generally having a nice time. Haters gonna hate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBass Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Another user here, I've just gone for premium as I've finally sorted my student discount card out and for the £4.99 a month that it is it's an absolute amazing thing! I use it to help me teach as well when I'm teaching. Check out the "Best Bass Lines Ever" started by our very own Dood and regularly added to by many off here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowieBass Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I thought that although the downloaded content doesn't just disappear if you cancel a Spotify premium account you'll be unable to listen to those tracks when you're offline - in effect it becomes locked (via some kind of DRM mechanism?) - otherwise you could just sign up for a month and download loads of content then cut and run? The payment for Premium gives you ad free access to the Spotify library and the ability to create offline playlists (and hence listen when offline) but the minute you stop paying so does your ability to enjoy offline playlists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mornats Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Yep Howie, that's how I believe the premium/offline playlist thing works. I listen to my playlist on my Android phone on the way to work and whilst at work if I'm heads-down concentrating on stuff so it's invaluable to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 [quote name='JamesBass' timestamp='1421968346' post='2667384'] Check out the "Best Bass Lines Ever" started by our very own Dood and regularly added to by many off here! [/quote] Hey Bud, Just searched for that list and can't find it ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBass Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 [quote name='kennyrodgers' timestamp='1421974046' post='2667430'] Hey Bud, Just searched for that list and can't find it ?? [/quote] The exact name should be "Best Bass Lines Evaaaaar" If not then I'll try and link you to it tomorrow when I'm back on the laptop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toneknob Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 (edited) [quote name='kennyrodgers' timestamp='1421974046' post='2667430'] Hey Bud, Just searched for that list and can't find it ?? [/quote] Try this [url="http://open.spotify.com/user/onlinedood/playlist/6UkfcLnRafb95u7EnciaAU"]Best Bass Lines Evaaaaar![/url] (http) Or spotify:user:onlinedood:playlist:6UkfcLnRafb95u7EnciaAU (Spotify URI) Edited January 23, 2015 by toneknob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Cheers Buddy, now following. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No lust in Jazz Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 (edited) I use it on and off, I often struggle with the availablity of new music that I like on Spotify, but for older stuff its great. Edited January 23, 2015 by No lust in Jazz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Rotten Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Yeah I love Spotify - I like being able to share hidden gems of music with my friends who also use it and subscribe to playlists they make. I have created a public playlist which has a grand total of 50 followers! Pretty cool! The offline feature is very good and invaluable to people who commute on the tube where there is no signal or in more patchy reception areas. Offline tracks have a timer - you have to go online and connect to the Spotify servers within 30 days of download. If you don't connect (or you connect and haven't paid your subscription) then they will stop working automatically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_5 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 [quote name='neepheid' timestamp='1421968203' post='2667380'] I'm a big fan. Recently made the move to my own premium subscription after borrowing my wife's one for a while, the 99p for three months offer hooked me in. I'm listening to music more than I have been for years, enjoying making up playlists and generally having a nice time. Haters gonna hate. [/quote] I think Spotify and what it does with regard to making music accessible to new listeners, and the option to introduce it via network to your friends and family is a great thing, I just wish it paid a sensible royalty to the composers. I'd rather link a YouTube video when sharing a tune, as at least the artist gets a better royalty rate. I can name several independent musicians and composers who have removed their material from Spotify for exactly this reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horizontalste Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I've used it for years as premium & I've discovered so much music that I wouldn't have without it. I know nothing of royalties but surely there's an agreement somewhere between artists, labels & spotify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepheid Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 [quote name='paul_5' timestamp='1422008861' post='2667635'] I think Spotify and what it does with regard to making music accessible to new listeners, and the option to introduce it via network to your friends and family is a great thing, I just wish it paid a sensible royalty to the composers. I'd rather link a YouTube video when sharing a tune, as at least the artist gets a better royalty rate. I can name several independent musicians and composers who have removed their material from Spotify for exactly this reason. [/quote] Spotify has re-invigorated my love and appreciation of music, and as such is likely to lead to increased purchases of music and attendance at gigs (actually getting off my lazy butt and going to see Postmodern Jukebox in February for the first time, for example). I think people take far too narrow a view of it and just look at the money or lack of it trickling through. Spotify is a loss leader, except you're not making a loss. It's not going to make you rich either, but I reckon it's better to be in the mix of how people are listening to music these days rather than being on the outside standing on a soapbox trying to make people give a crap about you and what you're doing independently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I agree with Nancy Johnson . Love the way you said it I'm gonna try it on payday . There are bands like air, royksopp etc. which I find patchy. This way, i can avoid the crap stuff eventually. Also, some rare stuff is on there apparently . Is it true, that you don't need an internet connection all the time? ( commuting etc.) I hope you can download stuff at home, and keep it until subscription expires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I agree with Nancy Johnson . Love the way you said it I'm gonna try it on payday . There are bands like air, royksopp etc. which I find patchy. This way, i can avoid the crap stuff eventually. Also, some rare stuff is on there apparently . Is it true, that you don't need an internet connection all the time? ( commuting etc.) I hope you can download stuff at home, and keep it until subscription expires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I'm with nancy on this . Love the way he said it I'll probably subscribe on payday. There are a few bands, which I find patchy( air, royksopp. Etc.) this way I can avoid the crappy stuff. I hope that you can download stuff at home, and not have to rely on broadband all the time tho' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I'm with nancy on this . Love the way he said it I'll probably subscribe on payday. There are a few bands, which I find patchy( air, royksopp. Etc.) this way I can avoid the crappy stuff. I hope that you can download stuff at home, and not have to rely on broadband all the time tho' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybertect Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 [quote name='Horizontalste' timestamp='1422011177' post='2667677'] I've used it for years as premium & I've discovered so much music that I wouldn't have without it. I know nothing of royalties but surely there's an agreement somewhere between artists, labels & spotify. [/quote] There's an agreement between the major labels and Spotify - they got roughly [url=http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2009/aug/17/major-labels-spotify]20% of the company's shares in a 2009 deal[/url] as well as their ongoing revenue from royalties. That could be 20% of [url=http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/permalink/2014/06/11/major-labels-trying-sell-spotify-10-billion-sources-say]$10 billion[/url] if and when Spotify goes public. Needless to say, the smaller labels and artists aren't seeing any of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybertect Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Putting artists' Spotify earnings (US $0.000521 per play for songwriters, $0.00521 for performers, gross payable) into context of other music download services. http://thetrichordist.com/2014/11/12/the-streaming-price-bible-spotify-youtube-and-what-1-million-plays-means-to-you/ [quote]An artist needs to generate THREE MILLION PLAYS on the two largest and most popular streaming platforms* to equal just 1,125 album downloads from iTunes.[/quote] * Spotify and YouTube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horizontalste Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 [quote name='cybertect' timestamp='1422017136' post='2667779'] Putting artists' Spotify earnings (US $0.000521 per play for songwriters, $0.00521 for performers, gross payable) into context of other music download services. http://thetrichordist.com/2014/11/12/the-streaming-price-bible-spotify-youtube-and-what-1-million-plays-means-to-you/ * Spotify and YouTube [/quote] Do you know how this compares to a play on mainstream radio? It really isn't a lot for sure but times are definitely changing and I think platforms like spotify could help to decrease illegal downloads in witch the artists get absolutely foxtrot alpha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Dunky Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 (edited) I had the free version, twas good but a little frustrating as it is pretty limited in terms of features. I opened the app about three weeks ago and lo and behold, an offer awaits me - 99p for 3 months Premium membership. I signed up immediately. It's brilliant, was really pleased to see they have a lot of the more obscure music I like. It's going to be a wrench when the three months is up deciding whether to renew at full whack or to live without what is undoubtedly a fantastic app. Edited January 23, 2015 by Funky Dunky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mep Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Been using it for years and all the family love it. We have the £4.99 monthly deal which works for us. Glad you have got on board with, enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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