Billy Apple Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 [quote name='E sharp' timestamp='1422997692' post='2679427'] I would say that , to echo what's been said , that most 'pros' would actually learn more about the intricacies of gear from us , than we would of most of them . The 'compression gate' thread , I would say proved that - I'd wager 51mon knows more than most . [/quote] If you think that's true, then this just about sums up just how amateur we are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 [quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1422998883' post='2679458'] On another forum that I moderate, there was question of being able to have contact with a very big name in the lefty bass world. The forum members were asked "What would you like to ask the fellow..?". There was an embarrassed silence for a while; one or two wanted to know what strings he preferred, another couple "Which bass did you play on that famous song..?". In short, no-one really had any idea as to how to address him with anything more 'meaningful', and the occasion passed by. It's not certain that the points of view of 'names' are really that much in phase with forums at all. There are exceptions, and it's no reflection on either the quality of the forum nor that of the 'name', but I doubt, if there was a Venn diagram, that there'd be an enormous overlap. Just my tuppence-worth. [/quote] What did you expect asking the members of leathergimpsuitschat.com about Macca's bass playing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 [quote name='Billy Apple' timestamp='1422999490' post='2679478'] If you think that's true, then this just about sums up just how amateur we are. [/quote] I dunno Sean, I think some pro players are into gear and others don't give a crap either way. Just like 'normal' bass players. I know of one pro player who has just the one bass, turns up and does his thing and that's it. He's not really interested in gear [i]or[/i] forums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drax Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 General gossip about working with big names is always interesting but they're not going to put that on a forum. I'd be interested to know how they go about learning and prepping for tours, how big name auditions work. There's probably many live BCers who could answer these I guess.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 [quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1422999779' post='2679480'] What did you expect asking the members of leathergimpsuitschat.com about Macca's bass playing? [/quote] You've been stalking me again..! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 [quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1422999874' post='2679483'] You've been stalking me again..! [/quote] I had a hunch it was you from the show us what you look like page, you can tell a lot from a mans eyes and the colour of his breathing tube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Apple Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1422999820' post='2679481'] I dunno Sean, I think some pro players are into gear and others don't give a crap either way. Just like 'normal' bass players. I know of one pro player who has just the one bass, turns up and does his thing and that's it. He's not really interested in gear [i]or[/i] forums. [/quote] I was just shocked at how badly a pro-player was spoken to on the compression thread. He did not wade in being the big 'I am', he just gave his opinion, as any member has the right to give their opinion. Straight off the bat the first reply was that his opinion was nonsense. it's almost as if through some kind of jealousy forges members to treat pro's badly, especially with the 'who do you think you are' kind of attitude. After that episode I'm not surprised real pro's do not come here. Who'd want to after all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 [quote name='Billy Apple' timestamp='1423000422' post='2679491'] Straight off the bat the first reply was that his opinion was nonsense. it's almost as if through some kind of jealousy forges members to treat pro's badly, especially with the 'who do you think you are' kind of attitude. After that episode I'm not surprised real pro's do not come here. Who'd want to after all? [/quote] I got the impression it was six of one to a certain extent. But it certainly wasn't one of Basschat's finest moments, that's for sure. Anyway, moving on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 [quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1423000117' post='2679486'] I had a hunch it was you from the show us what you look like page, you can tell a lot from a mans eyes and the colour of his breathing tube [/quote] I knew I should have used a fake picture... [attachment=182867:Skub_Dive.jpg] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 [quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1423000755' post='2679503'] I knew I should have used a fake picture. [/quote] You are Jacques Cousteau and I claim a small herring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skej21 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 [quote name='Billy Apple' timestamp='1423000422' post='2679491'] I was just shocked at how badly a pro-player was spoken to on the compression thread. He did not wade in being the big 'I am', he just gave his opinion, as any member has the right to give their opinion. Straight off the bat the first reply was that his opinion was nonsense. it's almost as if through some kind of jealousy forges members to treat pro's badly, especially with the 'who do you think you are' kind of attitude. After that episode I'm not surprised real pro's do not come here. Who'd want to after all? [/quote] Exactly. Give an opinion and the cynical nature of forum mentality shows up. 'You would say that, I bet you're endorsed by them!' etc etc. I have a few things I'd like to put up on the forum, one of which would members might find useful, but have refrained so far as I'm afraid it'll get ripped to shreds like everything else seems to. I know the forum can be like this and I still contribute to some threads but I often bite my tongue and refrain from contributing as it feels like it'll descend into an unnecessary argument. Theres one thing the Pro players COULD contribute... An opinion on why they don't contribute lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Apple Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1423000704' post='2679500'] I got the impression it was six of one to a certain extent. But it certainly wasn't one of Basschat's finest moments, that's for sure. Anyway, moving on... [/quote] Go back and read it. First post after Vails first post.. 'nonsense'. I think that would get anyone's back up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimR Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) [quote name='xilddx' timestamp='1422994661' post='2679338'] .. who actually had the time and inclination to contribute, say, 200 posts a year, what do you think we would learn from them that is not available from other sources, including each other as members? And another thought, are there things they can learn from us amateur/semi pro members? [size=5][color=#ff0000][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Without going into WHY they are [b]NOT[/b] posting here please! [/font][/color][/size] [/quote] That they're just like we are in our day job. We find a way that works for us and get on with it. Sometimes we get a good boss with a good project locally, sometimes we don't. I think we put these people on a pedestal when really they're just ordinary guys/girls with an unusual job. I know lots of pros, I also know lots of builders who worked on some prestigious projects, they've been to paces and seen things normal people have never/will never see. It's all the same. . Edited February 3, 2015 by TimR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) [quote name='Billy Apple' timestamp='1423000973' post='2679511'] Go back and read it. First post after Vails first post.. 'nonsense'. I think that would get anyone's back up [/quote] Well that's true, but I don't want to encourage a mass exodus to that thread, it's done and dusted already. Edited February 3, 2015 by discreet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Lol Dad I totally missed the compression thread, damn I never opened it to contribute as I left my compression pedal in the 90's where it belongs, lol. Probably best I dont know who the pro was or who did the baiting then, is there any popcorn left? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mornats Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 [quote name='xilddx' timestamp='1422999025' post='2679462'] Hahaha! You reckon? They can possibly tell you what bass they played, maybe what amp they used, but after that the sound is all in the hands of the geezer mixing the album And I'm wondering if that information is of any use anyway. But I've an open mind on that. [/quote] It just seems to be an oft-asked question that's all If I were having a pro record my band I'd be well interested in the sound the geezer was getting and how they got it. Just to learn if nothing else although I'd like to think they'd like my input into how I want the end result to sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Apple Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1423001077' post='2679515'] Well that's true, but I don't want to encourage a mass exodus to that thread, it's done and dusted already. [/quote] [font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][size=4]Sorry, I just found it deeply embarrassing. But, in answer to the OP, there probably are pro's with the time and inclination and IMHO we can learn from them, but they have to be listened to in the first place. But based on past performance they probably cant be arsed with the potential grief. After all, a pro who advised '[color=#282828]to develop control over your instrument' was told '[/color][color=#282828]That's some backwards dark ages opinion you got there'[/color][/size][/font] [font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][color=#282828]Sheesh! [/color][/font] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerstodge Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 [quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1422996151' post='2679382'] Ironically I have a pro mate that is the biggest gear nerd I know so I'm not so sure about the idea they don't have time for playing with new gadgets etc. [/quote]i have a VERY pro mate , i showed him my markbass head and he said "what is it". When i told him he said "it can't be much cop cos its too light" ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) [quote name='Billy Apple' timestamp='1423001784' post='2679532'] [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]I just found it deeply embarrassing.[/font] [/quote] It [i]is [/i]embarrassing, but I'm sure we've all posted comments we're not proud of. Me more than most, probably. Edited February 3, 2015 by discreet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Apple Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1423001978' post='2679539'] It [i]is [/i]embarrassing, but I'm sure we've all posted comments we're not proud of. Me more than most, probably. [/quote] If I was a pro player I'd just keep quiet and post knob-gags Edited February 3, 2015 by Billy Apple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul h Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 I don't think I could learn anything from a professional musician. It reminds me of that time when a master craftsman offered to make me his apprentice and pass on 40 years worth of wisdom, secrets, and tips and tricks of the trade. I just said "Nah". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 [quote name='Billy Apple' timestamp='1423002216' post='2679542'] If I was a pro player I'd just keep quiet and post knob-gags [/quote] That's about the size of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerstodge Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 I failed an audition for the singer Marilyn in the late 80s and i post on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1423000813' post='2679505'] You are Jacques Cousteau and I claim a small herring. [/quote] I'll need some assistance with that; a herring aid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 [quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1423002680' post='2679550'] I'll need some assistance with that; a herring aid. [/quote] I'm going to avoid making the usual fish puns and not carp on about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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