LayDownThaFunk Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Kanye West is the best bass player on the planet. [/link] You sure he's not just a master of self publicity, created an 'alter-ego' has it were and duped everyone into thinking that's how he lives his life everyday? Like thousands of others before him, he's got you all talking about him for right or wrong reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 [quote name='Delberthot' timestamp='1423898489' post='2690132'] In a studio with lots of layering and autotune she might be alright but live I think she's terrible [/quote] Have you seen her live? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Apple Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 (edited) [quote name='LayDownThaFunk' timestamp='1423909417' post='2690215'] Like thousands of others before him, he's got you all talking about him for right or wrong reasons. [/quote] Yes, yes. it is the Master and we are the fools not worthy to gather the crumbs from beneath it's table. You may think this is all us talking about it, but the truth is it's a mere blip between scratching my arse and going for a dump Edited February 14, 2015 by Billy Apple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubit Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Well, as stated, I got me the new Beck album and on first impression, it's very good. Purely personal, but I won't be buying any Kanye or Beyoncé material. Thanks goes out to Kanye right enough, cos I wouldn't have bought the Beck album were it not for him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil.c60 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 (edited) .....and just when you thought he couldn't be any more of a twat; [url="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11418110/Kim-Kardashian-posts-image-of-20-month-old-daughter-wearing-bulletproof-vest.html"]http://www.telegraph...proof-vest.html[/url] Yes he can! Edited February 17, 2015 by phil.c60 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles'tone Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 This made me smile today on Facebook: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Someone said Kim K had a massive arse earlier in the thread, looks to me like she has two massive arses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmo Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 [quote name='miles'tone' timestamp='1424202136' post='2693844'] This made me smile today on Facebook: [/quote]About sums it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 [quote name='phil.c60' timestamp='1424197399' post='2693761'] .....and just when you thought he couldn't be any more of a twat; [url="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11418110/Kim-Kardashian-posts-image-of-20-month-old-daughter-wearing-bulletproof-vest.html"]http://www.telegraph...proof-vest.html[/url] Yes he can! [/quote] 37!? I thought he was much older. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkboy Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skol303 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 ^ Love it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkboy Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 My thoughts on the whole thing are quite straightforward. Kanye did this for one reason - Kanye. He's not anywhere near as untalented an artist as a lot are making out in this thread - he's made a couple of albums that have in no small way defined the rap genre in the last decade or so, and as a producer he is rightly held in high esteem. Just because it's not your cup of tea doesn't make it any less valid artistically! But... He's a dick. And not even an erect dick, just a big floppy dick getting in everyone's face with his dickiness. His argument that he's doing this to highlight racism in the music industry is nonense - he started doing this because he thought that he should have won awards that went to someone else - it was throwing toys out of the pram - nothing more, nothing less. He's stopped concerts because the people that weren't standing on his command didn't let him see that they were disabled and couldn't stand. He's made openly antisemitic remarks. He called his kid North, ferchrissake! Outside of his music, the only thing he has done of any merit was to embarrass Bush about his reaction (or lack of) to the devastation of the poorer districts of New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina. And for that matter, why has Beyonce not said anything? After all, the man has form after bombing Taylor Swift's acceptance speech at the VMAs. If they're such good friends, why not just tell him to cut it out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveK Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 [quote name='sharkboy' timestamp='1424206880' post='2693918'] [b]He's not anywhere near as untalented an artist as a lot are making out in this thread[/b] - he's made a couple of albums that have in no small way defined the rap genre in the last decade or so, [/quote] Part of his problem for many is, [b]he's[/b] nowhere near as talented as [b]he[/b] makes out in other publications. KW says,[i] "Beck needs to respect artistry and he should've given his award to Beyonce".[/i] Perhaps Mr West should himself "respect artistry" and give any awards that he may have won to all those artists that he's ripped off/sampled. [url="http://www.whosampled.com/Kanye-West/?sp=1"]http://www.whosampled.com/Kanye-West/?sp=1[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkboy Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 But then that opens up the whole "is sampling stealing?" debate (for the record, as long as it's credited then no, it isn't!). Does he have an overinflated sense of self-worth? Undoubtedly. Is he a disrespectful twat by doing what he did to Beck, Taylor Swift and others? No argument here. Is he a talentless hack? Not by a long stretch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 [quote name='sharkboy' timestamp='1424208522' post='2693936'] But then that opens up the whole "is sampling stealing?" debate (for the record, as long as it's credited then no, it isn't!). Does he have an overinflated sense of self-worth? Undoubtedly. Is he a disrespectful twat by doing what he did to Beck, Taylor Swift and others? No argument here. Is he a talentless hack? Not by a long stretch. [/quote] That's about right in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveK Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 [quote name='sharkboy' timestamp='1424208522' post='2693936'] But then that opens up the whole "is sampling stealing?" debate [/quote] Not really! You say: [quote name='sharkboy' timestamp='1424206880' post='2693918'] Just because it's not your cup of tea doesn't make it any less valid artistically! [/quote] Indeed, for me though, it's the sampling of significant "Grooves" and "Hooks" that makes "it less valid artistically". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lojo Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 I like the comparision to Hendrix's outlook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delberthot Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 [quote name='xilddx' timestamp='1423909489' post='2690217'] Have you seen her live? [/quote] I've seen enough on Youtube to convince me that's she's not very good. I wouldn't waste my time looking for tickets, never mind going to see her Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 I'd have a lot more time... rather than none... for what he says if he wasn't involved with that shining light of artistic talent Kim whatshername. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 [quote name='Delberthot' timestamp='1423898489' post='2690132'] In a studio with lots of layering and autotune she might be alright but live I think she's terrible [/quote] Only saw her on the TV at the Glastonbury gig... that seemed quite a show. How much help she had, I don't know but then she wouldn't be alone in that..by any means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubit Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 [quote name='sharkboy' timestamp='1424208522' post='2693936'] But then that opens up the whole "is sampling stealing?" debate (for the record, as long as it's credited then no, it isn't!). Does he have an overinflated sense of self-worth? Undoubtedly. Is he a disrespectful twat by doing what he did to Beck, Taylor Swift and others? No argument here. Is he a talentless hack? Not by a long stretch. [/quote] I'm not saying he's talenless, just that I don't like him or his music. I like rap, as said, Cypress hill, Tupac among others. I just don't like Kanye and if someone else does, bully for them. It won't change my outlook on his talent or lack of. I do think he is over rated, but again that's down to taste. What kind of world would it be if we all liked the same things ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubit Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 [quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1424285096' post='2694782'] Only saw her on the TV at the Glastonbury gig... that seemed quite a show. How much help she had, I don't know but then she wouldn't be alone in that..by any means. [/quote] Yip, I've heard Motley Crüe playing " live " on some show in 'Merica and they had backing tracks. Now it was argued that they were still live, but I think live is totally live, so I was under impressed . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbayne Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 [quote name='sharkboy' timestamp='1424206880' post='2693918'] He called his kid North, ferchrissake! [/quote] North West?? I,m going down the pub!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ras52 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 [quote name='Hobbayne' timestamp='1424289965' post='2694867'] North West?? I,m going down the pub!! [/quote] That's right. I do so hope that when he/she grows up, they launch an eponymous range of Hitchcock-inspired perfume: North, by North West. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonestar Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 [quote name='ras52' timestamp='1424290171' post='2694872'] That's right. I do so hope that when he/she grows up, they launch an eponymous range of Hitchcock-inspired perfume: North, by North West. [/quote] Excellent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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