spongebob Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 I've been playing my Markbass rig for a good while now, a 121P and New York cab. Went for them at the time for the weight saving. Been fancying a change, and the new Fender 500 Rumble combo has got my attention. It comes in about 16kg, my Markbass bits are about 15 each. A nice bit lighter! Obviously the Fender is 2x10", against the 2x12" of the MB. From memory, my output from the MB is 500 watts....same as the smaller-speakered Fender? My gigs are mainly pub gigs, in which I've never really turned up the MB above about a 1/4! I did add the cab originally as the amp alone lacked the power. I've read some good stuff about these - what do you guys reckon? Worth a change? I'm sure I'd have no issue selling the MB rig as it's great kit, but I just feel like a change! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highfox Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Not sure this is any help but, I have a few mini stacks, a GB shuttle 6, tone Hammer 500, a few cabs GB Neo 212 and 2 Aguilar Gs 112's. I like to swap and change a bit... But for the last 6 months I have been using the rumble 500 combo and love it, at larger gigs and rehearsal I stick the Aggie 112 under it and it gives me just the tone I like. I'd suggest if you possibly can try one out first before you move any of your gear on. MB gear is used a liked by a lot of people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamfist Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 The whole rumble series are highly under-rated IMO. If I was in the market for that type of amp, I'd seriously look at the rumble 500. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob Posted February 15, 2015 Author Share Posted February 15, 2015 I could do without dragging the MB amp and cab, as we are a pub band primarily. And I'd like a change! If the 500 is more than enough for that, it would do me. I'd just like confirmation that it's got enough puff to cope! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 I used the former incarnation of the Fender Rumble 210 combo for a few pub gigs and it performed very well. I can only surmise that the new V3 Rumbles are an improvement on an already good product. I'd buy one put it that way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highfox Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 The go loud and keep the punch as well. I have used the combo alone for a lot of pub gigs and never found it wanting.. I just like it more with a 12 under. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob Posted February 15, 2015 Author Share Posted February 15, 2015 Do i assume that the MB 500w output is the same as I'd get from the Rumble, even with the 10" against the 12? Please forgive my stupidity, as my interest in amps has normally only gone as far as weight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highfox Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 I think and I could be wrong! But from what I have read the Fender v3 500w 210 combo runs at 8 ohms (around 320 watts without an extension) and spreads the load to 4 ohms and the full 500 watts when an extension cab is used. Not sure about the MB stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob Posted February 15, 2015 Author Share Posted February 15, 2015 That makes sense. I never play on above about 1/4 on the amp and cab, so a slight reduction in power shouldn't be an issue, as I've no plans to play an arena any time soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbayne Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 I have a Rumble 350 which i use to use at pub gigs, but even then it is a bit over powered. I now use a Warwick Sweet 150 combo and leave the rumble for the bigger venues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 [quote name='Highfox' timestamp='1424007486' post='2691430'] I think and I could be wrong! But from what I have read the Fender v3 500w 210 combo runs at 8 ohms (around 320 watts without an extension) and spreads the load to 4 ohms and the full 500 watts when an extension cab is used. Not sure about the MB stuff. [/quote] Similar with the MB, it`s 300 watts on its own - 500 when an extension cab is connected. And 2x10s is a bigger surface area than 1x12 so if the MB 112 can be giiged singly, so will the Rumble 210. I used to have the Rumble 210 predecessor, and it was plenty enough for the gigs I was doing. Really nice warm rich tone, especially with a Precision. I`ve got a Rumble 15 (older version) as a practice amp and love it as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob Posted February 15, 2015 Author Share Posted February 15, 2015 Thanks chaps, sounds like it would do the job for what I do. If it works out, have the job of selling the old rig. BC classifieds! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob Posted February 15, 2015 Author Share Posted February 15, 2015 Just pulled the proverbial on one of these bad boys.....! Rehearsal on Thursday, gig on Saturday....opinions to follow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moos3h Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Where did you buy from spongey? I'm close to doing the same... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob Posted February 15, 2015 Author Share Posted February 15, 2015 I used GAK. Same price as most places, and have had great service from them before, so well worth a visit if you're tempted! Maybe I should be negociating a rate of comission on these! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highfox Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Look forward to your review. I just have my set flat most of the time, so it's an easy starting point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob Posted February 15, 2015 Author Share Posted February 15, 2015 Good tip, will start from there. Thanks Highfox! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 [quote name='Highfox' timestamp='1424023727' post='2691679'] I just have my set flat most of the time, so it's an easy starting point. [/quote] That`s exactly how I used my Fender Pro amp as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 I'd be wary of pushing a 210 hard. I've used one but only with decent FOH and it did ok, but I don't think you can push 210's as hard as 212's all things being equal..so it wouldn't do loud gigs, IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob Posted February 15, 2015 Author Share Posted February 15, 2015 Good advice. I've never pushed my 2x12 beyond 1/4, so I'm hoping for regular pub type gigs, it should hopefully do the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinB Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I've heard a few reports of the combos having no wadding or bracing in the cabs and there is a marked improvement when these are added. It's not the sort of thing you'd notice at bedroom levels, so it only becomes apparant at loud rehearsals or gigs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob Posted February 16, 2015 Author Share Posted February 16, 2015 I'm guessing I could always plug in my Markbass extension cab if more volume was required? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyellowcar Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 [quote name='spongebob' timestamp='1424083236' post='2692276'] I'm guessing I could always plug in my Markbass extension cab if more volume was required? [/quote] Definitely for your bigger gigs. I believe the 500 bizarrely operates at 350watts at 8 Ohms, so you need an extension cab to get all the juice out of it. As an aside, I love the Rumble amps. I bought one of the previous gen 15's after two similarly priced Ampegs crapped out on me, and then upgraded to the new Rumble 40 (lighter, XLR out, 3 preamp voices, 4-band EQ, and built in overdrive) which I see no need to upgrade. It's a cracking amp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 There is some presumption that they are based largely on the Genz Benz amps, anyone looked inside any? I liked the Contour amps which I'd guess these are the same as but in a new box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyellowcar Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 [quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1424120356' post='2692943'] There is some presumption that they are based largely on the Genz Benz amps, anyone looked inside any? I liked the Contour amps which I'd guess these are the same as but in a new box. [/quote] Fender acquired GB, GB disappears from the market, Fender releases new lightweight range of amps. It's an easy conclusion to draw, but I can't say I'm an expert, nor have I cracked open my amp to have a look! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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