Marvin Posted February 18, 2015 Posted February 18, 2015 [quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1424218520' post='2694111'] Well, if you weren't so bloomin' grumpy all the time... [/quote] I prefer to view myself as someone people should approach with caution rather than grumpy Quote
skidder652003 Posted February 18, 2015 Posted February 18, 2015 [quote name='danbowskill' timestamp='1424209347' post='2693947'] I detest heaving my ampeg rig two n fro practice and sometimes consider a lightweight option......... All that goes when it's fired up :-) [/quote] same here, I just DI my DHA VT 2 into the desk at rehersals, keep the lifting for paid gigs! Quote
sk8 Posted February 18, 2015 Author Posted February 18, 2015 [quote name='skidder652003' timestamp='1424245905' post='2694180'] same here, I just DI my DHA VT 2 into the desk at rehersals, keep the lifting for paid gigs! [/quote] Might have to employ my BDDI in the same way Quote
Pow_22 Posted February 18, 2015 Posted February 18, 2015 Same here regarding heavy weight. I ditched my SVT and embarked on a mission to get that sound through lighter gear - Orange bass terror, TC RH450, Aguillar Tonehammer, Ashdown Spyder.....just didnt cut it. SVT is now back in full swing and im back happy again Quote
sk8 Posted March 17, 2015 Author Posted March 17, 2015 used this at more volume at practice. Very pleased with te sound. There is a certian heft an dweight to the notes that I've not had with any of my class D stuff. Its very vintagey, or least how I've set it up it is Sits in the mix well and just pumps out solid bass. OD and Fuzz work well but sound very different from my other set ups, in a good way. Liking leaving this with a bit of breakup and using the guitar rig to do the OD stuff. Quote
1970 Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 I love my lightweight head (Peavey MkIV - 19kgs) Quote
Roland Rock Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 I've just gone back to heavy too. It's the gravitational pull of that massive transformer Quote
artisan Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 I too have swapped back,selling my shuttle & buying a Hartke Kilo which just sounds immense into my BB2. Class D amps just don't seem to have the sheer heft that a "proper amp has,imho Quote
EBS_freak Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 Nothing beats the power on demand of a bit lump of iron. Quote
Conan Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 While I don't doubt the experiences of the respondents so far, I do think that a lot of us hear with our eyes and muscles. If we heft in a heavy piece of gear, we expect it to sound "heavyweight" too... Maybe another blind test is called for (like the one relating to cone diameters)? Quote
cheddatom Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 What is this "heft" we're talking about? Surely there's nothing that can't be achieved with some clever compression and EQ? Quote
grandad Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 [quote name='1970' timestamp='1426673805' post='2720496'] I love my lightweight head (Peavey MkIV - 19kgs) [/quote] I pleased to find another soul who loves their PEAVEY. Quote
JTUK Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 [quote name='Conan' timestamp='1426686598' post='2720769'] While I don't doubt the experiences of the respondents so far, I do think that a lot of us hear with our eyes and muscles. If we heft in a heavy piece of gear, we expect it to sound "heavyweight" too... Maybe another blind test is called for (like the one relating to cone diameters)? [/quote] Maybe the visual is a factor but I would say...as much as I can use my lightweight class D and NEO's, .. there is just a 'factor' that transformer and ceramics add or just have. I want to like the lightweight thing but I've never really 'loved' any NEO cab I've gone thru... and it took me a while to come to that conclusion. I didn't set out to not like NEO, I just realised all the ones that I was passing on, were actually NEO. Once I'd formed this opinion, I did think Class D might follow the same pattern but all that did was stop me buying one until relatively recently. I'd used Markbass and a few others by this time and wasn't struck on them anyway. Once I had my latest big block amp, i then KNEW... IMO Quote
sk8 Posted March 18, 2015 Author Posted March 18, 2015 [quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1426691109' post='2720859'] Maybe the visual is a factor but I would say...as much as I can use my lightweight class D and NEO's, .. there is just a 'factor' that transformer and ceramics add or just have. I want to like the lightweight thing but I've never really 'loved' any NEO cab I've gone thru... and it took me a while to come to that conclusion. I didn't set out to not like NEO, I just realised all the ones that I was passing on, were actually NEO. Once I'd formed this opinion, I did think Class D might follow the same pattern but all that did was stop me buying one until relatively recently. I'd used Markbass and a few others by this time and wasn't struck on them anyway. Once I had my latest big block amp, i then KNEW... IMO [/quote] I liked my LM3 but that was A/B. My Purple Chili Phat Bass was the best but didn't have the thump I've experiened with the Orange Rig Quote
wateroftyne Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 [quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1426685702' post='2720753'] Nothing beats the power on demand of a bit lump of iron. [/quote] This. Quote
wateroftyne Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 [quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1426686611' post='2720770'] What is this "heft" we're talking about? Surely there's nothing that can't be achieved with some clever compression and EQ? [/quote] Presumably that's what the likes of TC and Genz have been attempting with their magic circuits. None of it has worked for me.... So far. Quote
Marvin Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 [quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1426686611' post='2720770'] What is this "heft" we're talking about? Surely there's nothing that can't be achieved with some clever compression and EQ? [/quote] Never use compression. Have you learnt nothing on this forum? Quote
longtimefred Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 i currently sit firmly in the middle of all this. Currently using a TC Electronic Blacksmith (Class D but 1600 watts of it), into a Matamp 4x10 and an SWR Goliath 3 Jr both loaded with Neo speakers. So you can say i am using big old school boxes with a shed load of power, but its all nice and light. Great for touring, sounds killer and with all TC's gizmo's and compression working its magic alongside my Darkglass B7K - i do not miss dragging my valve amp around monster sounds. Quote
Roland Rock Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 I've tried quite a few amps recently, and of the lightweight ones, there were two that I really liked - it was only later on that I discovered that they were actually class a/b, while the rest were class D. Last night I brought my big iron power amp instead of the class a/b, and the difference was unmistakable; it just has so much authority to the tone. Quote
discreet Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 [quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1426686611' post='2720770'] What is this "heft" we're talking about? Surely there's nothing that can't be achieved with some clever compression and EQ? [/quote] I see no emoticons so can't tell if you're joking or not... if not, then you've obviously never played a gig with an Ampeg SVT and 810 on full song. It's like having a very large, heavy, sinister rubber ball bouncing on the stage behind you in time to the music. That's heft. Quote
Lozz196 Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 The nearest I`ve got to this with the lightweight gear is my Aguilar Tonehammer into a Barefaced Super 12T. It`s almost there, but the SVT into an 810 has that bit more. But having helped carry said SVT/810 rig, I`m never having one. Plus am still waiting til I use both Super 12Ts................ Quote
Marvin Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 [quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1426793227' post='2722098'] The nearest I`ve got to this with the lightweight gear is my Aguilar Tonehammer into a Barefaced Super 12T. It`s almost there, but the SVT into an 810 has that bit more. But having helped carry said SVT/810 rig, I`m never having one. Plus am still waiting til I use both Super 12Ts................ [/quote] Good grief, you'd be in danger of realigning the planets 😯 Quote
Kevin Dean Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 I found the Ashdown Digital ABM 400RH & Barefaced 12T or my preferred Ashdown Neo cabs nail it Quote
Tim Chapple Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 Sold my genz lightweight cabinets and gone back to my old trace elliot 1048 4x10. The sound is fuller, ballsier and better!. I have kept a Genz 2x10 for small gigs though Quote
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