Owen Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 http://barefacedbass.com/product-range/FR800.htm Very interesting. Marketed as PA cabs, but I would imagine that one of these + a nice preamp and you are good to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtcat Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 With a frequency range of 42Hz - 160Hz there's not a pre amp in the world that will make it sound like a bass amp. It's clearly a dedicated sub..............AND I WANT A PAIR!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 [quote name='mrtcat' timestamp='1426538769' post='2719155'] With a frequency range of 42Hz - 160Hz there's not a pre amp in the world that will make it sound like a bass amp. It's clearly a dedicated sub..............AND I WANT A PAIR!!! [/quote] 16 kHz !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I want. Don't tell Mrs FRC - I just picked up a lovely green mesa walkabout scout - no idea how I would justify this one to her! It would have to be one in one out... and still don't think I'ld get away with it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barkin Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 [quote name='mrtcat' timestamp='1426538769' post='2719155'] With a frequency range of 42Hz - 160Hz there's not a pre amp in the world that will make it sound like a bass amp. It's clearly a dedicated sub..............AND I WANT A PAIR!!! [/quote] That is, indeed, the spec for the active sub - not the full range cab linked in the OP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted March 16, 2015 Author Share Posted March 16, 2015 I had not noticed the sub as well. A combination of both would be quite the thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordep Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 This plus a jule monique. I need a tissue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dood Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I've been chatting to Alex about the FR's already. Very interesting indeed. I have to hear these cabs for sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 (edited) Lightweight subs are certainly very interesting but not entirely sold on the tops yet for the price... but then again, I haven't heard them yet. Very interested in the subs. Edited March 18, 2015 by EBS_freak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scalpy Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 They're going to sell a lot of those subs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 [quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1426546933' post='2719298'] Lightweight subs are certainly very interesting but not sold on the tops based on the specs and price... [/quote] is that for PA use or bass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 [quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1426576643' post='2719374'] is that for PA use or bass? [/quote] PA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 (edited) This would be perfect for bass given the specs - in my opinion. Bass/preamp in gigbag in one hand, active cab in the other. Sounds like the perfect solution for the bass player who wants a single-cab, lightweight, portable solution without compromising on beans... If it does what it says on the tin (and everything else I've ever used produced by Alex has done, so far) and it really [i]is[/i] 15kg, it's a no-brainer. In my humble opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary, good luck with the sale, in before the lock, Rome wasn't built in a day, other products are available, quality always sells, if I remember correctly, as soon as possible and never wipe yer arse with a broken bottle. Hoi, hup la! Thhp. Edited March 17, 2015 by discreet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charic Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 One of these coupled with an axefx or kemper and you could be onto something a bit special if it's up to it sonically Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest monsterthompson Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 very interesting. I'd love to run one with a Tonehammer pre. great easy carry. it would eliminate my need for the Genz Shuttle in the middle of my current TH > Genz > BF chain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dood Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Similar thinking here - actually something I've been *trying* to do for many many years! Who can remember the ISP rig I had eh?! I'd like to hear these and then have a pair of FR's stacked - maybe a third just..well.. because. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 [quote name='dood' timestamp='1426631862' post='2720248'] Similar thinking here - actually something I've been *trying* to do for many many years! Who can remember the ISP rig I had eh?! I'd like to hear these and then have a pair of FR's stacked - maybe a third just..well.. because. [/quote] Can you pull your basschat card and borrow one for a review for us all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifi2112 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 I run a pre pedal into a Bagend powered cab but at 36kg it's no lightweight, however with the amount of gigs we're anticipating I probably can't justify one ... I did buy a S12 direct from Alex when they came out & it was brilliant, in fact the cab actually moved backwards (on smooth laminate floor) when I fully cranked my GK 700 ! That's how much air they move .. was so efficient. So I'd buy one based on my previous barefaced experience but sadly I can't afford one .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taunton-hobbit Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 I ran a pair of the 'revolutionary' Celestion SR1, plus subs for a few years.....don't think the spec was that different (subs were heavier, obv) tops were 2x10 in a plastic moulded cabs at 28lbs each - I think. After about two hours the mid-range seriously hurt. I hope Alex has done a lot of actual listening tests here, I wish him well, if he's got it right,it's a fabulous concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 We're excited about these! We have rather a large marketing challenge on our hands because what most people are failing to notice is that these are true full-range PA speakers that do BIG lows. They're not like the usual small boxes you get on stands - apart from being that light! If your band only puts vocals, guitar and horns through the PA system and never uses the PA to also play recorded music, then they'd be complete overkill. They're designed to replace much larger tops + subs rigs, hence the cost. Push them hard with kick drums, bass guitar, synths etc. Back when we first used two Big Baby Ts as a PA system they were used for drum 'n bass at club levels and sounded awesome. The FR800s can do that. They're nothing like those plastic Mackies you see everywhere, despite also being 2-way active 12" boxes. Much like a Super Compact is nothing like a cheap practice 1x12" bass combo, despite both containing one 12" speaker. So how can we explain this to people? Any local (Brighton) bands want to borrow a pair? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charic Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 [quote name='alexclaber' timestamp='1426683082' post='2720683'] We're excited about these! We have rather a large marketing challenge on our hands because what most people are failing to notice is that these are true full-range PA speakers that do BIG lows. They're not like the usual small boxes you get on stands - apart from being that light! If your band only puts vocals, guitar and horns through the PA system and never uses the PA to also play recorded music, then they'd be complete overkill. They're designed to replace much larger tops + subs rigs, hence the cost. Push them hard with kick drums, bass guitar, synths etc. Back when we first used two Big Baby Ts as a PA system they were used for drum 'n bass at club levels and sounded awesome. The FR800s can do that. They're nothing like those plastic Mackies you see everywhere, despite also being 2-way active 12" boxes. Much like a Super Compact is nothing like a cheap practice 1x12" bass combo, despite both containing one 12" speaker. So how can we explain this to people? Any local (Brighton) bands want to borrow a pair? [/quote] What would you say the closest competition is in terms of "accepted" PA rigs? Might be a good way to get it across to people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 (edited) [quote name='alexclaber' timestamp='1426683082' post='2720683'] We're excited about these! We have rather a large marketing challenge on our hands because what most people are failing to notice is that these are true full-range PA speakers that do BIG lows. They're not like the usual small boxes you get on stands - apart from being that light! If your band only puts vocals, guitar and horns through the PA system and never uses the PA to also play recorded music, then they'd be complete overkill. They're designed to replace much larger tops + subs rigs, hence the cost. Push them hard with kick drums, bass guitar, synths etc. Back when we first used two Big Baby Ts as a PA system they were used for drum 'n bass at club levels and sounded awesome. The FR800s can do that. They're nothing like those plastic Mackies you see everywhere, despite also being 2-way active 12" boxes. Much like a Super Compact is nothing like a cheap practice 1x12" bass combo, despite both containing one 12" speaker. So how can we explain this to people? Any local (Brighton) bands want to borrow a pair? [/quote] I clocked that early on when looking at the specs. I'm especially interested in the 12 inch subs as they are super portable and the specs looks quite encouraging. I'm a believer in big subs (15s as a min and 18s being the sweet spot before heading up to 21s). The thing is, there's subs and subs... one persons idea of crushing bass may not be the same as mine. But despite all this, I am very interested in hearing this setup - an efficient lightweight sub are far from common! [quote name='charic' timestamp='1426683523' post='2720698'] What would you say the closest competition is in terms of "accepted" PA rigs? Might be a good way to get it across to people [/quote] In terms of tops (with great low end response that you could use without subs), I would like to hear them against the RCF 745s - [url="http://www.rcf.it/products/pro-speaker-systems/art-7-series/art-745-a"]http://www.rcf.it/pr...eries/art-745-a[/url] which come in just under 1k. I'm not quite sure what the subs would be pitched against - maybe the DLM12s because Alex has mentioned Mackie already? Edited March 18, 2015 by EBS_freak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 [quote name='charic' timestamp='1426683523' post='2720698'] What would you say the closest competition is in terms of "accepted" PA rigs? Might be a good way to get it across to people [/quote] In terms of clean broadband and low frequency output then a pair of FR800s would be similar to a dual Mackie SRM550 + SRM1850 sub rig (that's two 1x12" tops and an 18" sub) or a pair of Mackie SRM750s (two 2x15" full-range speakers). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 (edited) Quick question as there's no pic of the subwoofer - is it front loaded? Or is a horn design? The only small drivered yet super efficient subs that I've experienced is the Danley tapped horn stuff - but they are far from super light! Edited March 18, 2015 by EBS_freak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoo Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Consider my attention thoroughly grabbed. I'm currently using a GK MB500 into either/both of BFM Omni 10 and Omni 10.5. Have a Zoom B3 and MS-60B if I need some preamp type flavour but I generally run dry bass signal into the effects return of the amp and set the sound up from the bass preamp. Was looking into a Greenboy F112 and either a MB800 or Tecamp Puma 900 so I could avoid the need for 2 cabs for loud-ish gigs but this would be more cost effective AND reclaim the amp space in my gig bag..... Only downside I can see vs the F112 is losing the wedge option... but i've got one of those Markbass folding propstands so even that's not a big deal. Veeeeeerryyyyy tempting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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