0175westwood29 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Evening all, having a bit of a change around on the board as i do every sort of 4 months, and im thinking of getting something based on a Rat circuit, have the original and it was good but rather than grab one of those i fancy getting a newer clone with more options. so basically the two i know of are the Rat tail and Rat king by Fuzzrocious and im pretty sure the cog effects TK-421X is based on a rat anyone owned both? or have an idea how these would work with my ctm-100 and if they play nice with other pedals such as octaves and filters? andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 (edited) Have you tried the Idiot Box Blower Box? I would start there, it's a good take on the rat sound with immense low end. Absolute bargain too! Also there is the MXR Bass Distortion that's been recently announced, designed in conjunction with Ryan from Fuzzrocious - it looks like a smaller Rat Tail with a clean blend. Edited March 22, 2015 by dannybuoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stacedabass Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 you sounded great last night Andy. i used to have an original RAT pedal, loved the distorted sound, just lost all the bottom end so got rid of it in the end. Though have sounded a few which have been modded for bass good luck with the search, Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0175westwood29 Posted March 22, 2015 Author Share Posted March 22, 2015 [quote name='stacedabass' timestamp='1427052185' post='2725162'] you sounded great last night Andy. i used to have an original RAT pedal, loved the distorted sound, just lost all the bottom end so got rid of it in the end. Though have sounded a few which have been modded for bass good luck with the search, Nick [/quote] cheers nick! so did you man!! will check out the blower box danny, i think i might need to have something with a clean blend, but from having a heliotropic i know the fuzzrocious pedal keep alot of lows. andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 (edited) The Blower Box doesn't have a clean blend, but has ridiculous amounts of bass boost on tap from its EQ! Edited March 22, 2015 by dannybuoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0175westwood29 Posted March 22, 2015 Author Share Posted March 22, 2015 [quote name='dannybuoy' timestamp='1427057164' post='2725275'] The Blower Box doesn't have a clean blend, but has ridiculous amounts of bass boost on tap from its EQ! [/quote] cool ill check it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plunkrock Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 I've had a couple of rat based pedals and can also confirm the Blower Box definitely does not need a blend, the bass on that thing is crazy. I ended up going back to the Rat Tail though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratman Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 I'll be putting a couple of pedals up for sale here later tonight. My Blower Box will be one of them, if you're interested. The low end isn't just big, it's insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0175westwood29 Posted March 22, 2015 Author Share Posted March 22, 2015 Mmmmm im not sure about the blower box, it sounds good, but even tho i can tell that the bass is huge, its the boosted bass which isnt the same as clean blended bass if that makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazWills Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 (edited) I've had a rat tail, blower box and TK-421x. The COG, for me, is a class above. Blower Box boosted bass just didn't sound right to me, and rat tail too thin sounding. COG just dials in right, sounds like i always wanted a RAT to sound Edited March 22, 2015 by GazWills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratman Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 [quote name='GazWills' timestamp='1427060068' post='2725343'] COG just dials in right [/quote] I have to agree with Gaz on that. That COG is a bit special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerster135 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 [quote name='ratman' timestamp='1427060806' post='2725359'] I have to agree with Gaz on that. That COG is a bit special. [/quote] Me too! It's very fat sounding on its own, much more so than the Rat Tail, and then there's the clean blend with LPF on the TK-421-X if you really need it! Recently played some big gigs with this as my main sound, and everyone complemented me on my tone! :-) Even Jon Pearce (ex-Reuben) asked how I got my distorted bass sound!... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazWills Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 [quote name='bakerster135' timestamp='1427102767' post='2725668'] Even Jon Pearce (ex-Reuben) asked how I got my distorted bass sound!... [/quote] what's the band - anything online? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerster135 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 [quote name='GazWills' timestamp='1427104021' post='2725681'] what's the band - anything online? [/quote] Rough demo [url="https://soundcloud.com/moredangerousanimal"]here[/url]! We've just recorded some tracks and getting them properly mixed now, so they should be up by start of April! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazWills Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 sounds good - I'll look forward to hearing that all mixed up next month Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0175westwood29 Posted April 1, 2015 Author Share Posted April 1, 2015 agree sounds good Bakerster! so problem is i now after looking on the Fuzzrocious site i want a "Demon" sounds really good, def sounds in rat territory, but after being on that site i also want a dark driving! can maybe see me taking a punt on the tk, as from my "Red 5" custom i know how good cog stuff is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooks79 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Have a look at Abominable Electronics, they are about to bring out a deluxe version of their Rat based pedal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazWills Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 (edited) [quote name='0175westwood29' timestamp='1427918755' post='2735951'] agree sounds good Bakerster! so problem is i now after looking on the Fuzzrocious site i want a "Demon" sounds really good, def sounds in rat territory, but after being on that site i also want a dark driving! can maybe see me taking a punt on the tk, as from my "Red 5" custom i know how good cog stuff is. [/quote] I thought that the COG Knightfall pedals were in the same family as the Demon / OCD pedals - may be wrong though... Fuzzrocious stuff has just never really clicked with me - bought an OSD (what the Demon was originally called), rat tail, two grey staches, a dark driving and a tremorslo over the years. Sold them all on. The only one that was (to me) really special was that first grey stache. Stupidly sold it!! But he then tweaked the circuit, and the second one I bought, to replace that first one, was nowhere near as good. I do like their pedals, it's just from my experience, I have found better equivalents of everything I have bought from them (aside from that first stache!) - there is a lot of fan-boy-ism surrounding them on the net though. Edited April 2, 2015 by GazWills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 [quote name='0175westwood29' timestamp='1427918755' post='2735951'] agree sounds good Bakerster! so problem is i now after looking on the Fuzzrocious site i want a "Demon" sounds really good, def sounds in rat territory, but after being on that site i also want a dark driving! can maybe see me taking a punt on the tk, as from my "Red 5" custom i know how good cog stuff is. [/quote] Check out the EHX Glove, it's meant to sound good on bass and is also an OCD clone. Worth a punt for £39! On the Dark Driving, I found it to be a pale imitation of the Blueberry and much prefer the Bearfoot version I have now. I would hold off buying anything ratty until the new MXR comes out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle psychosis Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 I get my RAT fix using a standard Proco RAT and a Boss LS-2. Sounds awesome. Sound guys love it because the bass doesn't disappear, and if you buy second hand the pair of pedals can be had for about the same as one of the Boutique RAT types, but with the added bonus of having an LS-2 which is useful for lots of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0175westwood29 Posted April 2, 2015 Author Share Posted April 2, 2015 [quote name='GazWills' timestamp='1427959346' post='2736210'] I thought that the COG Knightfall pedals were in the same family as the Demon / OCD pedals - may be wrong though... Fuzzrocious stuff has just never really clicked with me - bought an OSD (what the Demon was originally called), rat tail, two grey staches, a dark driving and a tremorslo over the years. Sold them all on. The only one that was (to me) really special was that first grey stache. Stupidly sold it!! But he then tweaked the circuit, and the second one I bought, to replace that first one, was nowhere near as good. I do like their pedals, it's just from my experience, I have found better equivalents of everything I have bought from them (aside from that first stache!) - there is a lot of fan-boy-ism surrounding them on the net though. [/quote] totally valid man, ill be honest ive been a bit like that when it comes to some stuff, sadly its mxr that ive always disliked, only there drive stuff tho. ive actually ordered a demon, got it with the gate/boost mod and an external switch for the lpf/hpf still looking into rat pedals, but will see what happens in the next few weeks be nice to have a few to try, already have a dry/wet blend on my board so no need for the ls-2. andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plunkrock Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 I think you'll be really happy with the Demon, one of their best imho, and I've had most of them too! Would have kept them all if I hadn't needed the cash! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0175westwood29 Posted April 2, 2015 Author Share Posted April 2, 2015 [quote name='plunkrock' timestamp='1428010402' post='2737123'] I think you'll be really happy with the Demon, one of their best imho, and I've had most of them too! Would have kept them all if I hadn't needed the cash! [/quote] really looking forward to it, my pedal collection is def getting a revamp atm got in a nice easy to hide colour aswell.........gold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plunkrock Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 [quote name='0175westwood29' timestamp='1428012062' post='2737160']really looking forward to it, my pedal collection is def getting a revamp atm got in a nice easy to hide colour aswell.........gold [/quote] What paint job did you go for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0175westwood29 Posted April 2, 2015 Author Share Posted April 2, 2015 Was tempted to get his kids to paint it but went for hand painted as I the pic on the demon is cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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