Ghost Rider Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 I'm pretty sure this in not the real thing http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/fender-precision-bass-guitar-/281645095038?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item41935b187e Please correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks Quote
bigjohn Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) A cursory glance... Not with that logo. Or headstock. Edited March 28, 2015 by bigjohn Quote
warwickhunt Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 It was in a loft it must be real... NOT! Quote
AndyTravis Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 Jesus, some poor bugger without the savvy will fall for that. Quote
Lozz196 Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 [quote name='bigjohn' timestamp='1427575443' post='2731959'] A cursory glance... Not with that logo. Or headstock. [/quote] Or neck-plate. Quote
Ghost Rider Posted March 28, 2015 Author Posted March 28, 2015 Thought it looked a bit dodgy looking. The neckplate was what got me thinking it was a copy. Let's hope nobody gets taken for their money Quote
ribbetingfrog Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 There is a report item button on ebay where you can report fakes. Used it a few times but never seen an item removed. Quote
cameltoe Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 [quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1427576888' post='2731990'] Or neck-plate. [/quote] Or Truss wheel! Dear god... How much is the bridge cover worth? That's what I'd pay for the bass. Quote
thebrig Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 I spotted it as soon as it was listed, I put it on my watch list not expecting any bids above £50, but it's already had seven bids and is now on £250 with another five days to go. I checked the serial number on the "Avery" labels attached to the bass, and this is the finding: [b]Your guitar was made at the Fuji-gen Plant (for Fender Japan), Japan in the Year(s): 1985 - 1986[/b] I don't think so! Quote
spacey Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 See what it sells for, its more fun... One born every minute. Quote
lou24d53 Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 The tuners also look like they were put on by someone who forgot to wear their glasses to work. Quote
lou24d53 Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Up to £330 now with still 4 days left to go...! Quote
Marc S Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Definitely not a Fender! I'm no expert, but the logo is wrong, the neck / headstock looks wrong and the neck plate is definitely wrong I've seen a few Japan Fenders - none with a plate like that! I can't believe there have been 11 bids already I hope the winning bidder realises before paying Quote
warwickhunt Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 [quote name='Bassassin' timestamp='1427745590' post='2733846'] It's an Italian-made Melody, 1970s. Jon. [/quote] I thought that you might be able to nail it Jon. Surely anyone paying £330+ will have the savvy to know it isn't a Fender... or is a Melody worth £330+ Quote
Bassassin Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 [quote name='warwickhunt' timestamp='1427817534' post='2734616'] I thought that you might be able to nail it Jon. Surely anyone paying £330+ will have the savvy to know it isn't a Fender... or is a Melody worth £330+ [/quote] It's actually a nice, fairly unusual copy, probably worth about £150ish, with its proper headstock logo - although in fairness I have seen unbranded ones. Quite hard to tell from some70s MIJ copies, but these tuners, 3-piece neck, wheel-type truss adjuster & Gibson-type nut all turn up on the Italian-made ones. The seller doesn't necessarily know it's a fake (that's not an Ebay-era decal, after all!) but it is surprising that punters still fall for it. J. Quote
Hobbayne Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Has anyone reported it? It may stop some poor sod from being ripped off Quote
Marc S Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 (edited) [quote name='Hobbayne' timestamp='1427822226' post='2734704'] Has anyone reported it? It may stop some poor sod from being ripped off [/quote] Yes, a pal of mine says he reported it - nothing has happened though.... Quote from seller info; "[size=5][color=#000000]it as a serial number on the head stock and rear plate A969165 ." [size=4]No - it has a STICKER on, with a serial number on it! A rough, home-made looking sticker at that! Really hope someone isn't taken for a ride with this If it's still there later today, I'll report it too And I'd urge everyone else who has seen this thread to do so.... ... Lets look out for one another, and stop these scammers.... Please, everyone report this......[/size][/color][/size] Edited April 1, 2015 by Marc S Quote
spacey Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 Personally I would let them buy it, they might know what they are doing, it is a vintage Italian copy bass from a bygone era, someone might be looking to restore it. If a Limelight with fake Logo is acceptable then whats the difference. I am quite sure even the most stupid buyer knows its not a Fender, but given what other copies sell for who are we to estimate its value. How much is a 40 YR old + copy worth to a collector of such things, just look at some of the other daft prices paid for similar stuff. Quote
Bassassin Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 Italian copies like this are a lot rarer than MIJ but (currently) a lot less collectable - a surprising amount of them get punted as MIJ, either because sellers don't know what they've got, or they appreciate there's more money in MIJ. That said, I have a pre '75 Ibanez P copy, I doubt I'd get £300+ for it. I still think it's a dumb buyer issue, as far as this one's concerned. For the half-dozen or so that might be interested, a Melody 5000 P copy, different tuners & body wood (or possibly stain), but otherwise the same as this one - neck build, truss adjuster, neckplate, and that odd offset scratchplate screw. Same slabby body & not-quite fitting scratchplate too: [url="http://www.fetishguitars.com/castelfidardo-recanati/melody/melody-solidbodies/"]http://www.fetishgui...dy-solidbodies/[/url] (scroll down a bit) J. Quote
spacey Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 I have seen some very odd stuff sell for odd prices. Squire JV basses fetch more than the actual Fender JV they were based on ?? Old instruments that were wardrobe door stops selling daft money because they are old. I am sure people must collect junk like this and are willing to pay for it. Quote
Marc S Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 [quote name='spacey' timestamp='1427882818' post='2735322'] If a Limelight with fake Logo is acceptable then whats the difference. I am quite sure even the most stupid buyer knows its not a Fender, but given what other copies sell for who are we to estimate its value. [/quote] The difference is quite obvious.... Limelights are custom made, and though they have a Fender logo, the builder is NOT trying to pass them off as a Fender! In fact, Limelights in particular are rather higher quality that most basses priced much higher A "let some mug buy this" attitude is just immoral If you saw any other crime, you'd report it, wouldn't you? I mean, what if someone was trying to sell you a "cut & shut" car? If a passing mechanic saw you showing interest, you'd want him to warn you.... Yes, many of us might be able to spot this fake, being passed off as something it isn't But this might be someone who isn't sure, or is taken in by the sellers' blurb.... Let them know - it's what you'd expect - someone to help & inform you..... This bass IS being passed off as a Fender Quote
ras52 Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 [quote name='Marc S' timestamp='1427893470' post='2735521'] Yes, many of us might be able to spot this fake, being passed off as something it isn't But this might be someone who isn't sure, or is taken in by the sellers' blurb.... Let them know - it's what you'd expect - someone to help & inform you..... This bass IS being passed off as a Fender [/quote] Agreed - and reported. Quote
spacey Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 [quote name='Marc S' timestamp='1427893470' post='2735521'] The difference is quite obvious.... Limelights are custom made, and though they have a Fender logo, [/quote] Then they are a counterfeit product, you can have one or the other, not both. Quote
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