visog Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 It more than just 'lazy journalism', it's approaching cynical. How long until there's an implication that Basschat is BGM's online forum simply by association. (I bet the column won't feature much of the many 'why I don;t buy BGM anymore' threads.) I think it would be better, if it must be done, to feature Talkbass and other online communities with full credit to the OP's who in effect are becoming music journalists for others' profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planer Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 [quote name='Skol303' timestamp='1427733949' post='2733626'] Good work Sylvia! [/quote] Seconded :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameronj279 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 [quote name='yorks5stringer' timestamp='1427756903' post='2734030'] So the reality is punters who have to pay for BGM (including myself) to find out what is going on Basschat which is free...? [/quote] I'm sure they have other articles too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Don't forget it will be bluejay who decides what to include. BGM say they want our most interesting goings-on in the mag so for most members it'll be a non-issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 [quote name='visog' timestamp='1427783761' post='2734089'] It more than just 'lazy journalism', it's approaching cynical. How long until there's an implication that Basschat is BGM's online forum simply by association. (I bet the column won't feature much of the many 'why I don;t buy BGM anymore' threads.) I think it would be better, if it must be done, to feature Talkbass and other online communities with full credit to the OP's who in effect are becoming music journalists for others' profit. [/quote] Not sure about using members 'copy' for a commercial magazine... A friend often has photos poached by a 'friend' on FB and they then end up in a online mag.. and the person who got pulled up for this thinks it is ok because they credited the photographer.. and therefore thought they didn't need to ask..let alone pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drax Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) One knock on effect is it opens more of a dialogue with BGM, and who knows - maybe some of the perennial BC complaints might cut through. Be really interesting to see what Sylvia writes, can only be a good thing. Edited March 31, 2015 by Drax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UglyDog Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I can hardly see that Bluejay will be lifting posts wholesale and stuffing the column full of members' utterings/pics without their agreement. References to 'lazy journalism' are a bit unfair when nothing has even been written yet. I can't see how this can be anything other than good exposure for BC, and I second Skank's comments. Here is a cake to say 'nice one' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 That's a 'sharing cake', right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planer Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Mmmmm, cake... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 [quote name='UglyDog' timestamp='1427794117' post='2734218'] References to 'lazy journalism' are a bit unfair when nothing has even been written yet. [/quote] You don't really get the whole pre-judging thing, do you? Where's the fun in waiting to see some results and reaching an informed conclusion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaypup Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 [quote name='UglyDog' timestamp='1427794117' post='2734218'] References to 'lazy journalism' are a bit unfair when nothing has even been written yet. [/quote] They haven't been bothered to write anything you mean - how lazy can you get?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noisyjon Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 [quote name='bluejay' timestamp='1427711635' post='2733222'] ...and quotations from actual posts... [/quote] Will the people who's posts you want to quote be asked if that's OK first can you clarify please bluejay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete.young Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 [quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1427791792' post='2734179'] Not sure about using members 'copy' for a commercial magazine... [/quote] The Ts&Cs make it pretty clear that we have no say in this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Stu Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 [quote name='bluejay' timestamp='1427711635' post='2733222']I have been asked by BGM editor and fellow BCer Joel McIver to write a monthly column about the most interesting goings-on in Basschat-land.[/quote] Is this the same Joel McIver who approaching his third anniversary on BC is averaging less than a post a month? The majority of which I would imagine revolve around BGM rather than contributions to discussions? While I fully appreciate any attempt at upping the BC profile & improving post content quality it doesn't sound like Joel is one who leads from the front. Sounds more to me like an easy way to fill a gap with very little effort on his part, in a magazine that has been hammered on here, with talk of multiple cancellations of late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lojo Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Firstly I'm guessing Bluejay is a sensible person Secondly I'm guessing the BC heads are informed and will agree to whatever it is Bluejay is going to do Fourthly therefore we should wait and see what happens before being to cynical Someone think of a thirdly please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ras52 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 [quote name='lojo' timestamp='1427799923' post='2734317'] Firstly I'm guessing Bluejay is a sensible person Secondly I'm guessing the BC heads are informed and will agree to whatever it is Bluejay is going to do Fourthly therefore we should wait and see what happens before being to cynical Someone think of a thirdly please [/quote] Thirdly I think no one's going to quote a bassist who can't count. :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorks5stringer Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 [quote name='ras52' timestamp='1427800068' post='2734319'] Thirdly I think no one's going to quote a bassist who can't count. :-D [/quote] I thought that was the Drummer's job...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drax Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 People posting on a public website getting concerned about being quoted in a magazine. And we're all hiding behind silly names anyway. Relax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UglyDog Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 [quote name='lojo' timestamp='1427799923' post='2734317'] Firstly I'm guessing Bluejay is a sensible person Secondly I'm guessing the BC heads are informed and will agree to whatever it is Bluejay is going to do Fourthly therefore we should wait and see what happens before being to cynical Someone think of a thirdly please [/quote] Thirdly, cake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UglyDog Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 [quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1427797164' post='2734269'] You don't really get the whole pre-judging thing, do you? Where's the fun in waiting to see some results and reaching an informed conclusion? [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Thirdly, I require a shrubbery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UglyDog Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Ni. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coilte Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I can see both sides of the debate. However, IMO going by the "Introductions" forum, BC seems to have a steady influx of new members on a daily basis. Which leads me to question the notion that the forum needs extra promotion from the likes of BG magazine. I only ever bought three issues and found the content was not worth the price. IMO, the magazine has more to gain from this new arrangement than BC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number6 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Icky icky icky kapang zoop boing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) [quote name='Number6' timestamp='1427803804' post='2734378'] Icky icky icky kapang zoop boing [/quote] Finally, a well-balanced and considered viewpoint. Edited March 31, 2015 by discreet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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