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[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1428498213' post='2741821']
That's probably reasonable if a 13A fuse blows before the tripping of a 16A circuit breaker. I'm not that much of an expert, but from what I see published as performance figures, it would seem that a modern CB would trip much faster than a fuse. Depending on the overload, a fuse can hold up for up to an hour before melting. Under those same conditions, a CB would last only a few minutes. For outright short-circuits, too, the CB wins each time.Fuses are a rather clumsy method, after all (which is why CB's were developed and adopted for domestic protection...). I'd be more convinced if there was a CB in the plug, rather than a fuse, but that would be too expensive, I suppose. Still, as long as Albion has its citizens protection at heart, all is well.
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Unfortunately, that's often what happens when you mix old and new technologies.
Fuses are crude and comparatively erratic (any impurities in the fusible link, and even ambient temperature, can make a difference).

Compared to other countries we may be a bit 'belt and braces' but, having seen Spanish wiring burst into flames, I'm certainly OK with that. :)

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[quote name='icastle' timestamp='1428499321' post='2741836']
...having seen Spanish wiring burst into flames, I'm certainly OK with that.
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Is that what the renowned 'Latin Fire' is all about..?

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[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1428498213' post='2741821']


That's probably reasonable if a 13A fuse blows before the tripping of a 16A circuit breaker. I'm not that much of an expert, but from what I see published as performance figures, it would seem that a modern CB would trip much faster than a fuse. Depending on the overload, a fuse can hold up for up to an hour before melting. Under those same conditions, a CB would last only a few minutes. For outright short-circuits, too, the CB wins each time.Fuses are a rather clumsy method, after all (which is why CB's were developed and adopted for domestic protection...). I'd be more convinced if there was a CB in the plug, rather than a fuse, but that would be too expensive, I suppose. Still, as long as Albion has its citizens protection at heart, all is well.
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Yes. But we have 3, 5 and 10amp fuses as well.

It means you don't have to wire a table lamp with 2.5mm2 wire and then your 40w table lamp bulb isn't backed up with a 16amp breaker.

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[quote name='keeponehandloose' timestamp='1428493610' post='2741741']
Thomann now seem to be sending a Uk mains kettle lead with orders , free of charge..
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There you are, then. Order a kettle lead from Thomann and they'll send you two.

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[quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1428489573' post='2741694']
Which kettle is best for metal?
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A metal kettle. But the most metally is John Kettley.


[size=3][b]Kettley[/b]: Not Bob Carolgees[/size]

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If this were a hifi forum, we would have been discussing the relative tonal merits of different kettle cables by now.
Those 5amp ones are a bit of a one trick pony, if you ask me....

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[quote name='icastle' timestamp='1428503043' post='2741891']
Ole! :D
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Actually 'Ole!' is a misquote of 'Vale!', which sort of means 'OK!'

*expires and joins discreet in mass grave dedicated to victims of own pedantry*

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[quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1428526741' post='2742233']
A metal kettle. But the most metally is John Kettley.


[size=3][b]Kettley[/b]: Not Bob Carolgees[/size]
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And so is Michael Fish!!

Is it time to post the Russ Andrews link again? Always good for a laugh - http://www.russandrews.com/default.asp

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[quote name='pete.young' timestamp='1428683940' post='2743803']


And so is Michael Fish!!

Is it time to post the Russ Andrews link again? Always good for a laugh - http://www.russandrews.com/default.asp
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I feel some Amazon reviews coming on...

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[quote name='pete.young' timestamp='1428683940' post='2743803']


And so is Michael Fish!!

Is it time to post the Russ Andrews link again? Always good for a laugh - http://www.russandrews.com/default.asp
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Oh no not the Russ Andrews link! I'm off to listen to my Naim, DIN plugs and all....

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[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1428489604' post='2741697']
You'll probably find two types a 5A one and a 13A one. They have different cables but the IEC plug socket is only rated at 10A. Work that one out.

Anyway, you might need a 13A one with a 10A fuse depending on your amp power and whether it has a 'soft start'. There's a grey area between 300w and 500w amps as to whether the manufacturer fits a soft start. Essentially you could have a 500w amp that randomly blows 5A fuses when you turn it on.
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I'm pretty sure you can still get 7A plug fuses, if your really bothered. Personally 5 or 13 is good enough for me, even 6A cable will blow a 13A fuse if theres a short - unless its a really really long cable anyway.

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[quote name='BILL POSTERS' timestamp='1428783611' post='2744559']
I'm pretty sure you can still get 7A plug fuses, if your really bothered.
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You can, but they're not a popular value so you'll struggle to find them in the DIY type stores.

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[quote name='icastle' timestamp='1428783983' post='2744565']
You can, but they're not a popular value so you'll struggle to find them in the DIY type stores.
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You dont see 10A in places like that either, which is why I mentioned itt.

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[quote name='BILL POSTERS' timestamp='1428790919' post='2744639']


You dont see 10A in places like that either, which is why I mentioned itt.
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Thankfully Russ Andrews make a 10 amp 'Superfuse'. That's a relief.

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[quote name='BILL POSTERS' timestamp='1428790919' post='2744639']
You dont see 10A in places like that either, which is why I mentioned it.
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7A and 10A fuses on eBay if anyone really wants them...

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[quote name='RandomBass' timestamp='1428823987' post='2744754']
Thankfully Russ Andrews make a 10 amp 'Superfuse'. That's a relief.
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Thankfully Russ Andrews make a 10 amp 'Superfuse'. That's a relief.
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Thanks for that, just been reading about them.
http://www.russandrews.com/product-Russ-Andrews-13A-SuperFuse-1016.htm

Cant believe I've been missing out on the benefits of high performance fuses for so long.
Cant see a kitemark on them and they dont match the colour codes I'm used to though. Guess I'll just have to put up with the multipack ones from poundland.

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[quote name='RandomBass' timestamp='1428823987' post='2744754']
Thankfully Russ Andrews make a 10 amp 'Superfuse'. That's a relief.
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Thank the LORD! And such a bargain, too! I'll buy twelve!

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[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1428839163' post='2745019']
Thank the LORD! And such a bargain, too! I'll buy twelve!
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£300 plus P&P...a bargain!

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[quote name='FinnDave' timestamp='1428842093' post='2745059']


£300 plus P&P...a bargain!
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Good grief. There's no way I could afford to blow that amount of money on those current prices ;)

Mind you, are they any good for metal?

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[quote name='RandomBass' timestamp='1428842965' post='2745084']
There's no way I could afford to blow that amount of money on those current prices ;)
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I might - if my resistance was low. :mellow:

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