JCBass Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 I recently purchased myself an OBT 500 Watt head after having played one on a whim in PMT, whilst originally looking for an ABM 500 EVO III, but was just blown away by the volume and tone of the Orange (and the fact that it was a good £250 cheaper!). I did a bit of research before purchasing and came across the complaints of the DI out not being great, and being far too loud, I was just wondering if that is still the case on newer models? I'm in the studio on Wednesday and would rather DI than lug my 4x10 there, and just don't want to turn up and not be able to record. Cheers in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheth Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 You'd still need a cab to plug into as the amp requires a load. Also, there's a type of preamp tube that you could change it too as it's supposed to help, but I can't remember what it is of the top of my head though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorick Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 The preamp comes with 12AX7 which give the valve grunt and the hot DI problem on the earlier models. I've changed mine to 12AT7's, which calm things down a bit. You can get around the hot DI with an inline attenuator, or DI box with some form of DB reduction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Yes the new models are supposed to have this problem resolved. If not, you can use an inline XLR attenuator adapter. And you don't need a cab connected to record, only full tube amps have that requirement (like the 15W guitar version of the Tiny Terror), this is a hybrid with a solid state power section and no output transformer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCBass Posted April 9, 2015 Author Share Posted April 9, 2015 Thanks very much for that! Wasn't aware that you needed a cab to record out of the DI anyway, thought it worked like a DI box! And I'd heard about the valve change, might look into it a bit more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCBass Posted April 9, 2015 Author Share Posted April 9, 2015 Ohh okay then, cheers again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheth Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 (edited) [quote name='dannybuoy' timestamp='1428586476' post='2742720'] Yes the new models are supposed to have this problem resolved. If not, you can use an inline XLR attenuator adapter. And you don't need a cab connected to record, only full tube amps have that requirement (like the 15W guitar version of the Tiny Terror), this is a hybrid with a solid state power section and no output transformer. [/quote] I didn't realize this, my apologies for bad advice. Just searched a few threads on the Orange forum. Apparently it's not possible to DI straight from the amp. (I've just tried it with my OBT and it hasn't worked) E: Was referring to doing it without a cab. My mistake and error for wording. Edited April 10, 2015 by Fisheth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave74200 Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 I've got a six month old one and the DI is great. The problem was restricted to an early batch and long since rectified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0175westwood29 Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I recorded using my old tb1000 without a cab connected, without any issues as its a class d It doesn't need a load to run, valve power sections need a load but this is only a valve pre. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassmachine2112 Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Hi,it says in the manual you can record direct from the DI without a cabinet connected I,ve had mine for almost 2 years now and used DI from head at numerous festivals and it works a treat and all I,ve heard from the soundmen is that it sounds great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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