Hobbayne Posted April 17, 2015 Posted April 17, 2015 I,m still a bit shocked actually! But this evening I was searching Youtube for some 2 Tone Ska stuff by The Specials for some Sir Horace bass content, when I came across this song which I had never heard before. I was familiar with the 2 Tone stuff as a teenager, but a song called 'The Boiler' which I had never heard at all in 30 odd years came up so I thought I would give it a listen. The singer was Rhoda Dakar who sang lead with The Bodysnatchers. The song (If You can call it that) is a 12 bar rocksteady feel with Rhoda talking not singing the vocal. The subject deals with violence against women and rape. The last 60 seconds of the piece are so disturbing that I needed a large scotch to calm down. I wont post the link on here but the inquisitive among you will find it. Sorry to bring down your evening, but I needed to vent. Hobbayne Quote
Number6 Posted April 17, 2015 Posted April 17, 2015 Totally agree a very difficult song to listen too in it's entirety but there's a part of me that wishes that more high profile bands had music highlighting subjects as rape ànd domestic violence. The impact of this particular song is immense. Quote
timmo Posted April 17, 2015 Posted April 17, 2015 This topic reminds me of gloomy Sunday by Billie holiday. Ot got banned from several countries as hundreds of people were commuting suicide. Quite an interesting but sad story behind it Quote
Kirky Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 Yes, it's right up there (if that's the right term) with Billy Holiday's "Strange Fruit" for serious, serious issues in music. Quote
dincz Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 (edited) Lou Reed's "Berlin" album - with a bit of Jack Bruce as a bonus. Edited April 18, 2015 by dincz Quote
Raymondo Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 (edited) Wow what an amazing song (and performance by Rhoda!) It is indeed disturbing. I experienced the same kind of shock and despair when I first heard "Sonny's lettah" by Linton Kwesi Johnson.... Being a 50+ year old white male that grew up with two sisters and lived in a working class multi- cultural area of Nottingham I lived in a kind of "bubble of innocence" and never could understand violence to women or the racist attitude of the Police referred to in Sonny's lettah. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlrqPweVpnU Edited April 18, 2015 by Raymondo Quote
Mykesbass Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 That is a very powerful performance, and yes, a harrowing subject, but great that artists did stuff like this. Quote
Rich Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 I always found the Jam's "Down In The Tube Station At Midnight" very powerful. The line 'They took the keys, she'll think it's me' sends a shiver down my spine, and not a nice one. Quote
Raymondo Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 [quote name='Rich' timestamp='1429349806' post='2750621'] I always found the Jam's "Down In The Tube Station At Midnight" very powerful. The line 'They took the keys, she'll think it's me' sends a shiver down my spine, and not a nice one. [/quote] +1 It is spine chilling! Quote
bassace Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 Most harrowing? We Plough the Fields and Scatter........I suppose. Quote
HMX Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 Frankie Teardrop by Suicide is not one to listen to with headphones in a darkened room. Made me uneasy. Quote
Zenitram Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 Henrietta Collins and the Wifebeating Childhaters did a few very disturbing numbers. [i]Hey Henry[/i] and [i]Men Are Pigs[/i] in particular. Not something to listen to in public. [i]Drive by Shooting[/i] is, er, a bit fluffier. Quote
alyctes Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 Hüsker Dü, 'Diane'. We lost a guitarist to that song; he quit rather than play it. Though it's more about shock value, I suppose. Quote
Graham Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 Will give that a listen later on, but Daddy by Korn is a hard listen. Quote
Japhet Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 I find Johnny Cash's version of Hurt quite a difficult listen, especially the video version showing how ravaged he had become by the end. Quote
KingPrawn Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 This is my offering http://youtu.be/LAriDxTeed8 Quote
deepbass5 Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 Bassace beat me to it - i was going to suggest a Jethro Tull track due to the seed drill connection Quote
chriswareham Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 Diane was in remembrance of a friend of the band who was murdered in the manner the song describes, so I don't think it was written principally to shock. Quote
Spoombung Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 If you really want harrowing try this: https://youtu.be/l06ozEXOSaY Quote
spongebob Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 Two very hard listens. Queen Esther Marrow, 'Mama' - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ-t0F1RLvk James Brown - 'Mama's Dead' - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZw4h1EhsbM Quote
Truckstop Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 Dance with the Devil by Immortal Technique's another hard one to listen to. Most of you wont be familiar with Immortal Technique; he's a rapper from New York who raps about really tough topics like police brutality, rape, war crimes, drug abuse and other gang related material (I think he used to be in a gang). Anyway, this song tells the story of a kid who wants to become a gang member. He starts selling weed, then cocaine and then crack. Finally, in order to become a fledged member of the gang he was involved with, he has to go with a few other members to assault a woman they found. So, it's rather graphic and they assault this woman and end up killing her. In the end, the kid realises that the woman was his own mother and then kills himself out of shame. It's a good song, the wording is incredible and I'd encourage you to listen to more Immortal Technique! Quote
bonzodog Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 I find My chemical romances 'Cancer' a hard song to listen to because of the subject matter but also a beautiful song too Quote
Fisheth Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 These three I can't listen too or find hard, because of subject matter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgrEwzhBc34 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3pK0x17DAk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu2BNiwhaX8 Quote
alyctes Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 [quote name='chriswareham' timestamp='1429457102' post='2751536'] Diane was in remembrance of a friend of the band who was murdered in the manner the song describes, so I don't think it was written principally to shock. [/quote] Thank you for the update, I wasn't aware of the personal nature of the song. Quote
chriswareham Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 I love Gloomy Sunday in its original Hungarian version: [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBichAa9NeE"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBichAa9NeE[/url] The first English version had lyrics that were close in tone and meaning to the original, but the version most people know is a later one that has a much less direct style and a "happy" last verse tacked on to it. Quote
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