CamdenRob Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 (edited) In my continuing quest to put a new metal band together, I've recorded some basic demos of guitar and bass parts but tapping out electronic drums really does sound sh*t... I kinda need these demos to be as good as possible as I'm looking to use them to recruit interest parties. I've been thinking of using one of those online guys where you send them your track and they record real drums for you. I've found a guy who looks ideal with decent experience of the genre who seems to have a pretty extensive list of people who have been pleased with previous sessions work he's done. Anyone here done this sort of thing before? Looks good to me and seems a small price to pay for getting a couple of decent demos tracks together. Any pitfalls to be wary of? Edited April 22, 2015 by CamdenRob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Not done it myself, although it's a service I should offer! I was just going to say - try EZ Drummer, it sounds ace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamdenRob Posted April 22, 2015 Author Share Posted April 22, 2015 [quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1429688549' post='2753861'] I was just going to say - try EZ Drummer, it sounds ace [/quote] I havent seen that before... looks pretty good. I'd still be limited to my ideas of drum patterns though, I would ideally like someone who knows what there doing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassistclem Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 A friend of mine used Gavin Harrison from porcupine tree to record a couple of drum tracks. Not cheap but sounded amazing and added serious cudos to the recordings. Lot of top drummers offer the same service these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 How much..? And how much about his playing do you know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamdenRob Posted April 22, 2015 Author Share Posted April 22, 2015 [quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1429690529' post='2753886'] How much..? And how much about his playing do you know? [/quote] It's looking like about £80 a track. I only know as much about him as his website and the demos on it. Happy to hear of any recomendations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 I think I'd be tempted to pay that as a session rate as I'm sure I could a few great live tracks for £150 a day as long as the day was short-ish. Depends how you see the standard and purpose of a demo..... if it was just for recruiting, I think I'd settle on loops as anything else, I'd think of as overkill... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamdenRob Posted April 22, 2015 Author Share Posted April 22, 2015 [quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1429693702' post='2753924'] if it was just for recruiting, I think I'd settle on loops as anything else, I'd think of as overkill... [/quote] Yeah i guess I should just go with loops.. trouble is I'm not really up to speed with drums and my attempts are ruining otherwise reasonable sounding tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDaddy Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 [quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1429694370' post='2753940'] Yeah i guess I should just go with loops.. trouble is I'm not really up to speed with drums and my attempts are ruining otherwise reasonable sounding tracks. [/quote] We got drummers on here who I'm sure could advise on patterns. I would suggest you do what you can, post to Soundcloud (or whatever) then see what the drummers reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drax Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 [quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1429693154' post='2753914'] It's looking like about £80 a track. I only know as much about him as his website and the demos on it. Happy to hear of any recomendations? [/quote] £80 a track sounds alot for what will be a demo that gets overwritten. Loops does sound like the best idea. Depending on how tightly you've recorded the instrumental parts, it should be straightforward to layer some homemade loops on top of this. If you were having issues getting this to fit, there's a lot of friendly DAW types on BC that could help you out here I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamdenRob Posted April 22, 2015 Author Share Posted April 22, 2015 [quote name='MacDaddy' timestamp='1429697923' post='2753994'] We got drummers on here who I'm sure could advise on patterns. I would suggest you do what you can, post to Soundcloud (or whatever) then see what the drummers reckon. [/quote] Not a bad Idea that.. In fact a very generous BCer has already offered his help .. gotta love this place. I'm in conversation with the original guy I contacted with regards to how it's going to work, so i'd like to see how things pan out there as he's already put some effort in listening to some example material etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Dunky Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 (edited) Rob, my mate used this service for a demo and was very pleased with the results. If you want I can find out whom, how much, and will pm you? Edited April 22, 2015 by Funky Dunky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ras52 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 I've used http://mouseboydrums.com/ and it all went pretty smoothly.. I expect I'll be going back to him for more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliwailer Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Here's a great contact for those interested, he's a friend and ex band mate, very highly recommended. http://www.online-drums.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 http://paulrobinsondrummeronline.com/ I've played with Paul is a Blues Rock band but he's comfortable playing from that to The Lion King through Nina Simone and Trevor Horn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoying Twit Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 As I'm not doing anything professional, I'm happy to have fun programming my own drums. However, if I came up with something I was proud of, I'd be tempted to pay a professional vocalist to sing it. It seems that there are people offering this service. http://iamsilke.com http://www.ginaellenvocalist.co.uk/online-session-singer/4578530093 http://singer-for-hire.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambient Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Have you got Logic Pro ? The drummer things is pretty good, plenty good enough for a demo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 (edited) As mentioned above - Paul Robinson's online service is great. But it's worth checking out this guys video promo. https://r8---sn-cu-n1ql.googlevideo.com/videoplayback?requiressl=yes&shardbypass=yes&cmbypass=yes&id=00b2e22c74c18fe7&itag=18&source=picasa&ip=86.177.243.236&ipbits=0&expire=1432364462&sparams=cmbypass,expire,id,ip,ipbits,itag,mm,ms,mv,pl,requiressl,shardbypass,source&signature=240E8519577987F3C54A28E77E92D1F4A5616471.7BAD0F7280C53634E2B431673B582066477ECED8&key=cms1&cms_redirect=yes&mm=31&ms=au&mt=1429772382&mv=m&pl=26 Edited April 23, 2015 by lowdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Bassy Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Call me old fashioned, but if the aim is to put a band together why not put the band together and then work on parts together and record that?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scalpy Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 In an extraordinary piece of blagging and luck, I did a session with Dave Weckl this way! Unfortunately it was recorded prior to my meagre attempts, and I didn't end up on the final recording regardless, surprise surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamdenRob Posted April 24, 2015 Author Share Posted April 24, 2015 [quote name='Count Bassy' timestamp='1429794998' post='2755041'] Call me old fashioned, but if the aim is to put a band together why not put the band together and then work on parts together and record that?? [/quote] The thing is, hardcore is a niche genre within a niche genre. it's about as far removed from other types of music refered to as metal (iron maiden, black sabbath, metallica etc.) as it is from boyzone... I want to put together some example tracks to avoid wasting anyones time. Looks like I'm not alone with using online session drummers though I'm going to give it a go with a guy I've found who has worked with similar bands in the past. Just a couple of tracks to see how it goes. I shall post the evidence when it's all come together... good or bad... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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