karlplaysbass Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 hi everyone im currently learning pee wee ellis the chicken (jaco version) and just wondered what best the approach was? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 [quote name='karlplaysbass' timestamp='1429698907' post='2754009'] hi everyone im currently learning pee wee ellis the chicken (jaco version) and just wondered what best the approach was? [/quote] Try not to cock it up..? Sorry; coat got... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhysP Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Listen to it, work out what the notes are & play them in that order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toneknob Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Get a transcription, read along while listening. Don't try to learn it note for note, just nick your favourite bits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toneknob Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Here's someone's photocopies of the relevant pages from The Essential Jaco Pastorius, this is the version originally from Invitation: http://www.youbioit.com/es/article/imagen/4045/imagen19 (click back a couple of pages for Soul Intro if you need that as well) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 [quote name='karlplaysbass' timestamp='1429698907' post='2754009'] hi everyone im currently learning pee wee ellis the chicken (jaco version) and just wondered what best the approach was? [/quote] Play along to a cluck-track and don't try to over-egg it. Sorry. I couldn't help it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamdenRob Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 [quote name='RhysP' timestamp='1429701071' post='2754037'] Listen to it, work out what the notes are & play them in that order. [/quote] Sound advice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seashell Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Working out the notes just from listening to them is not that easy. Although I have discovered the more you do it the easier it gets (like everything really!). I think your approach may depend on why you are learning it and how long you have got. If you need to do it quickly, you may need all the help you can get, so toneknob's link will be really useful. If you've got plenty of time to sit down and work it all out for yourself, that might be a learning exercise in itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cairobill Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 I would also recommend playing the chord changes on your bass along to the tune, then picking up the baseline after you've got the harmony in your head... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianrendall Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 There's a cracking version on Pee Wee's MySpace page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gafbass02 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 [quote name='Rich' timestamp='1429701690' post='2754051'] Play along to a cluck-track and don't try to over-egg it. Sorry. I couldn't help it. [/quote] You win the internet today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interpol52 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 [quote name='Cairobill' timestamp='1429703292' post='2754073'] I would also recommend playing the chord changes on your bass along to the tune, then picking up the baseline after you've got the harmony in your head... [/quote] I like this one, I have been guilty in the past of just learning the notes to songs without understanding the chord changes that are happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cairobill Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 (edited) [quote name='interpol52' timestamp='1429704195' post='2754091'] I like this one, I have been guilty in the past of just learning the notes to songs without understanding the chord changes that are happening. [/quote] A good starting place to learning how the chicken 'works' harmonically is to play the chord tones of each chord (root, third, fifth and seventh) as they cycle along through the song. If you do that, your ear will get a fix on many of the notes in the bass line (particularly the third, fifth and flattened seventh) that jaco plays over the changes which (I think) are all dominant 7th chords. A looping pedal is (I recommend the TC ditto) so useful in this respect. It's a great tune... Edited April 22, 2015 by Cairobill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cairobill Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Here's the chord chart...best place to start http://overdrive.music.free.fr/audio/Tab/TabBasse/Chicken.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDaddy Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 (edited) [quote name='toneknob' timestamp='1429701363' post='2754045'] Here's someone's photocopies of the relevant pages from The Essential Jaco Pastorius, this is the version originally from Invitation: [url="http://www.youbioit.com/es/article/imagen/4045/imagen19"]http://www.youbioit....n/4045/imagen19[/url] (click back a couple of pages for Soul Intro if you need that as well) [/quote] I play it starting at 5th position, so 2nd finger on the b flat. That way you keep the same pattern as you move around the neck. Live Jaco used to play harmonics in time with the brass stabs, but I haven't got the hang of that yet. Edited April 22, 2015 by MacDaddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonestar Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Im trying to nail the soul intro version of this and even with the score its a real mare. I dont really struggle with the head just the intro. Happy to send the tab that i have or post a scan on here if it helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJS Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Just don't fowl it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ras52 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Some of these comments belong in the Bad Yolks thread... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drax Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 [quote name='ras52' timestamp='1429706236' post='2754125'] Some of these comments belong in the Bad Yolks thread... [/quote] Eggsactly what I was thinking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barneyg42 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Don't choke it!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlplaysbass Posted April 22, 2015 Author Share Posted April 22, 2015 [quote name='lonestar' timestamp='1429705638' post='2754121'] Im trying to nail the soul intro version of this and even with the score its a real mare. I dont really struggle with the head just the intro. Happy to send the tab that i have or pos;t a scan on here if it helps. [/quote] cheers man that come in handy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toneknob Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 [quote name='MacDaddy' timestamp='1429704971' post='2754111'] I play it starting at 5th position, so 2nd finger on the b flat. That way you keep the same pattern as you move around the neck. [/quote] Same here, but maybe third or fourth time around there's some raking down to the F on the E string that works best playing the B flat 1st fret on the A string. Move positions and some different note choices will jump out at you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toneknob Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 If you're feeling adventurous, try it in 7/8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckp8mJN5ojI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlplaysbass Posted April 22, 2015 Author Share Posted April 22, 2015 i think i may have got the groove now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorks5stringer Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 When I approach a chicken I use a handful of corn: it seems some of the contributors to this post have done the same! I regularly play this at jams, I think I learned it from Youtube videos both of Jaco and others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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