Muzz Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Wide open all the time. Use fingers/hands to control the volume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben4343 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 On my Umbo I run the switch in Ultraclean mode, have tone slightly rolled off from full, a slight bias to the bridge pup, and volume at about half [u]+[/u] a bit. I prefer the sensitivity in my bass knob (ooh err) to the amp, and haven't found that I lose the voice I want from my instrument with the lower input volume (this is usually through a head/cab, rather than a PA). I knock the switch to Dirty Mid mode (not my terms...) if I want some grunt. These criteria have been developed purely by what sound I think I like, rather than any robust theory. Perhaps I should start experimenting with a bit more volume than half [u]+[/u] a bit, to 'improve' my signal... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicko Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 On my P Bass rolled back to about 80% - sometimes adjusted downwards slightly if I'm using a pick. Tone is rolled back as well - theres a sweet spot at about 90%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Foot Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Its only recently Ive actually thought of dialing it back a little and as my signal has three boost/gain pedals there's hardly a drop in volume but the saturation of distortion and gain changes ALOT. So much so, its now another thing I have to think about, I have four settings for two pedals and a bass to play just ten songs and Im an 'always on' type of player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vsmith1 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 I have it generally 75% on the P/Js but will up it a bit when on the J pickup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cameltoe Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 P bass Volume 100% Tone 80% Luckily my preamp will respond if I dig in, so I can squeeze a bit more out through dynamics for the big bits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Four knobs on a Wal; volume, mixer between pick-ups, bass, treble. Volume on 4, mixer slightly, but only slightly, favouring treble, bass up full, treble on 9. I keep the volume low because, in the musics I play, an 'awesome' bass sound doesn't work. It needs to sit comfortably in the mix rather than overwhelm it. Actually, reviewing the above, I realised I do change it at times. I do a pop gig with the occasional reggae tune and then I pull the treble back and increase the mix in favour of the bass pick up. I also, once in a while, do that guitarist's trick of using the volume control to mirror the effect of a volume pedal. The controls have an incredible range on a Wal and I can actually recreate a wah pedal as well, albeit less effectively than the volume trick. The bass tone knob is less accessible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EliasMooseblaster Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Onboard volume generally on full - the only exception, normally, is when I'm using the Tube Screamer, as it does respond very nicely to changes in input level. The Screamer generally only gets used when I'm soloing, however, so I'll be on '10' for the majority of a set. I do, however, find myself rolling off the tone a fair bit, even on the Gibson-type basses. It may just be that our music suits a slightly darker bass sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadofsix Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 [quote name='Conan' timestamp='1431333114' post='2769971'] I'm surprised at how many people "keep a bit in reserve"! I always assumed (rightly or wrongly) that reducing the volume would affect the tone and that basses work best with volumes up full. Better for signal to noise ratio too... but maybe this is not true? Easier on a P bass (or something with only one volume control) but trying to do that on a J could be fiddly as having the two volumes set differently would change the tone (balance of the pickups) a bit I would guess. [/quote] I changed the middle volume control on my Jazz to a blend control. Now the one volume control controls both pick-ups. I know some of the purists may be aghast, but it serves my needs and can be undone if I ever stop using the Jazz live. Haven't figured out how to do that with the Rickenbacker, yet. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 [quote name='Les' timestamp='1431321959' post='2769871'] Do those of you who keep a bit in reserve and then turn up have someone out front riding the desk ? [/quote] No. I don't generally need it, but I'm not afraid to use it if volume levels creep up. And I'm not afraid to turn it down a bit too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 [quote name='Conan' timestamp='1431333114' post='2769971'] I'm surprised at how many people "keep a bit in reserve"! I always assumed (rightly or wrongly) that reducing the volume would affect the tone and that basses work best with volumes up full. Better for signal to noise ratio too... but maybe this is not true? [/quote] On an active bass, tone doesn't get affected unless turning the volume up pushes the amp front end into clipping. Yes, SNR is better with the volume full up, but decent modern amps and effects units have very little N so it becomes a theoretical issue. [quote name='Conan' timestamp='1431333114' post='2769971'] Easier on a P bass (or something with only one volume control) but trying to do that on a J could be fiddly as having the two volumes set differently would change the tone (balance of the pickups) a bit I would guess. [/quote] Yes, I have volume and blend on most of my basses so it's not an issue. [quote name='Conan' timestamp='1431333114' post='2769971'] My problem is that if the volume(s) were less than 100%, I wouldn't quite know where I was! If it is always on full and I knock it slightly, I can quickly check and return it to its "full on" position. OK, so I'm a bit clumsy and often catch my knobs when I am playing... [/quote] As we almost always play with backline only and no PA support for instruments, I set it by ear (and then don't knock it). If I do adjust it in the set, again, it's by ear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redstriper Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 I only use the neck pick up with the tone rolled off on my passive Jazz bass. I don't like the tone when the volume is higher than about 75% - it allows too much upper mid and treble through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbanx Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Yeah, I'm about 80-90%. Then if I have a solo coming up, or the guitarist gets a bit cocky I can dial myself up a bit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimR Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 All the way up. I play quietly in the quiet bits and loudly in the loud bits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil.c60 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Hot Rod P bass with 90% volume on neck (P pickup) and about 15% on bridge (J pickup) with most of the treble rolled off. Keeps all the unwanted stuff down a bit plus it sort if seems unnatural to me to set anything at absolute flat out! Surely most controls work best inside their operating range rather than right at the end? With regard to dynamics, you can still play harder/softer regardless of where you start with the controls set. The only time this approach might be tricky is if you simply aren't loud enough with your amp on max and digging in but that's unlikely, surely? (or your amp/cab isn't big enough!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairychris Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 All up, but roll off if required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamPodmore Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Volume and tone always on full whack for me. Liam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimR Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 [quote name='phil.c60' timestamp='1431436923' post='2771320'] Hot Rod P bass with 90% volume on neck (P pickup) and about 15% on bridge (J pickup) with most of the treble rolled off. Keeps all the unwanted stuff down a bit plus it sort if seems unnatural to me to set anything at absolute flat out! Surely most controls work best inside their operating range rather than right at the end? With regard to dynamics, you can still play harder/softer regardless of where you start with the controls set. The only time this approach might be tricky is if you simply aren't loud enough with your amp on max and digging in but that's unlikely, surely? (or your amp/cab isn't big enough!) [/quote] The volume control on a bass is a cut control. It doesn't make the bass any louder. Only quieter. So if you turn down your bass you're effectively limiting the range of dynamics available to you. Or rather making that range more narrow and harder to make fine adjustments from your fingers. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 [quote name='TimR' timestamp='1431450074' post='2771518'] The volume control on a bass is a cut control. It doesn't make the bass any louder. Only quieter. So if you turn down your bass you're effectively limiting the range of dynamics available to you. Or rather making that range more narrow and harder to make fine adjustments from your fingers. [/quote] No, the ratio of sound level between your quietest and loudest notes will still be the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil.c60 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 [quote name='TimR' timestamp='1431450074' post='2771518'] The volume control on a bass is a cut control. It doesn't make the bass any louder. Only quieter. So if you turn down your bass you're effectively limiting the range of dynamics available to you. Or rather making that range more narrow and harder to make fine adjustments from your fingers. . [/quote] errr if you turn your bass vol down and it makes it quieter, then set your stage volume via your amp gain / output, then turn your bass vol up it gets louder. I don't think I ever suggested that the vol control "amplifies" your bass - it's passive, so the max pickup output is what it is. I appreciate that as the pot bleeds the signal to earth to lower the pickup output, it may affect the overall dynamics/sound, but it's a sound I like (and even my guitarist commented that he likes the overall tone I get - who ever thought they listened?) so it works for me. Ymmv. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redstriper Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 The influence of volume adjustments on the overall tone produced is significant with a passive Jazz bass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Firefly Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 FLAT OUT ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molan Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I always have the volume wide open, sometimes cutting back a fraction on the very quietest songs. I also sometimes use a little pre-amp pedal for volume boost and to thicken tone on heavier rock songs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heket Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 No one else use volume control to control the level of distortion? I only play at home but that's what I use the volume on my SUB for, it being super hot and keen to distort. Or is that just a left over relic from my heady metal guitar days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EliasMooseblaster Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 [quote name='Heket' timestamp='1431509620' post='2771973'] No one else use volume control to control the level of distortion? I only play at home but that's what I use the volume on my SUB for, it being super hot and keen to distort. Or is that just a left over relic from my heady metal guitar days? [/quote] Me too! [quote name='EliasMooseblaster' timestamp='1431358011' post='2770422'] Onboard volume generally on full - the only exception, normally, is when I'm using the Tube Screamer, as it does respond very nicely to changes in input level. The Screamer generally only gets used when I'm soloing, however, so I'll be on '10' for the majority of a set. [/quote] As I say, it's generally just for when I'm soloing, but the TS-9B does respond really nicely to changes in input volume, especially if it's run out into a tube amp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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