bartelby Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Sounds like you were in the wrong place: [b] [size=5]Foo Fighters in Manchester: Council bosses say weather was to blame after gig was heard ten miles away[/size][/b] [url="http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/foo-fighters-manchester-council-bosses-9347120"]http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/foo-fighters-manchester-council-bosses-9347120[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonic_Groove Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 (edited) [quote name='landwomble' timestamp='1432829884' post='2785419'] I live in Manchester and am never going to another MEN gig at all, I much prefer to spend my time in smaller venues supporting smaller artists and venues that actually care about the experience, like The Ruby Lounge, The Deaf Institute, The Albert Hall etc. [/quote] +1000 [size=4][font=Calibri,Verdana,Helvetica,Arial]Bl**dy awful place! Awful sound, Awful ambiance & they treat you like cattle!!! However to OP I saw Radiohead at Old Trafford a few years ago and it was the best outdoor gig sound I have ever heard? Someone says Old Trafford has been redevelop though so if this was not a one off another venue I won’t be going to!!! Brendan[/font][/size] Edited May 29, 2015 by Sonic_Groove Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted May 29, 2015 Author Share Posted May 29, 2015 Yep, I've been to the Cricket Ground before and not had an issue with the sound...this time, though, after the redevelopment, was awful. I know a few people (those at the front, mostly) who enjoyed it and had a good sound, but it just highlights the problem: it was a good gig for a few thousand at the front, i.e. a much smaller venue-sized space, but the whole ground? Definitely not. And Dave and the boys got everyone's money... Oh, and it was definitely loud - I refer you to my original comment: [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]The venue managed the impressive trick of making the sound barkingly, harshly loud and also muddily indistinct at the same time...clever stuff... [/font][/color] Oh, and LCCC's consultants? I may drop them a line... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landwomble Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 I saw Doves and Hooky's band of the time at Old Trafford cricket ground a few years back. That was pretty excellent, TBH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No lust in Jazz Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Makes me miss the 'tours' of old - a band playing 20 dates at smaller venues spread across the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzodog Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 I used to go to the birmingham NEC arena a lot when i was younger to see bands (now called the LG arena). Sound was always awful and Ive heard of many big name acts that refuse to play there due to sound quality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectoremg Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 [quote name='sykilz' timestamp='1432887320' post='2785832'] Hopefully that means all the a$$holes that purchased tickets with no intention of going to the gig and just reselling for massive profit were left out of pocket. Hopefully. [/quote]+1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectoremg Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 [quote name='No lust in Jazz' timestamp='1432903841' post='2786075'] Makes me miss the 'tours' of old - a band playing 20 dates at smaller venues spread across the country. [/quote]A tour these days seems to involve jumping on the festival bandwagon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorks5stringer Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 "Old Trafford Cricket Ground". Why would anything in the title of that venue suggest to me it would be a good venue for music...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectoremg Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 [quote name='yorks5stringer' timestamp='1432940575' post='2786544'] "Old Trafford Cricket Ground". Why would anything in the title of that venue suggest to me it would be a good venue for music...? [/quote]Buddy Holly gigs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorks5stringer Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 (edited) [quote name='spectoremg' timestamp='1432960270' post='2786587'] Buddy Holly gigs? [/quote] My tongue in cheek point, as per the OP was that it is a Cricket Ground not a venue...! Edited May 30, 2015 by yorks5stringer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectoremg Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 [quote name='yorks5stringer' timestamp='1432984015' post='2786751'] My tongue in cheek point, as per the OP was that it is a Cricket Ground not a venue...! [/quote]I was being tongue in cheek about your tongue in cheek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorks5stringer Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 [quote name='spectoremg' timestamp='1433019241' post='2787188'] I was being tongue in cheek about your tongue in cheek [/quote] Did Buddy Holly play there then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No lust in Jazz Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 (edited) [quote name='yorks5stringer' timestamp='1432940575' post='2786544'] "Old Trafford Cricket Ground". Why would anything in the title of that venue suggest to me it would be a good venue for music...? [/quote] I accept this logic, but then pretty much all of the massive "sonically questionable venues that rip you off for ticket prices, parking and drinks and snacks" fall into the same category. Edited May 31, 2015 by No lust in Jazz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorks5stringer Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 [quote name='No lust in Jazz' timestamp='1433063635' post='2787373'] I accept this logic, but then pretty much all of the massive "sonically questionable venues that rip you off for ticket prices, parking and drinks and snacks" fall into the same category. [/quote] But did Buddy Holly play at them then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No lust in Jazz Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Yes, he was opening bat for Middlesex - between the wars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmo Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I went to Kingsholm Rugby Ground at Gloucester to watch Madness on Saturday. That was good. Perhaps rugby grounds are better suited than round cricket stadiums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorks5stringer Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 [quote name='timmo' timestamp='1433147740' post='2788152'] I went to Kingsholm Rugby Ground at Gloucester to watch Madness on Saturday. That was good. Perhaps rugby grounds are better suited than round cricket stadiums [/quote] Yes, but was Buddy Holly on The Bill somewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectoremg Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Buddy played at many cricket grounds. It's a little known fact that the band name came out of this and was nothing to do with insects on a recording. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorks5stringer Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 [quote name='spectoremg' timestamp='1433177864' post='2788613'] Buddy played at many cricket grounds. It's a little known fact that the band name came out of this and was nothing to do with insects on a recording. [/quote] [quote name='spectoremg' timestamp='1433177864' post='2788613'] Buddy played at many cricket grounds. It's a little known fact that the band name came out of this and was nothing to do with insects on a recording. [/quote] Of course he played down the fact he gave his name to Manchester Band "The Hollies" too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectoremg Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 [quote name='yorks5stringer' timestamp='1433179298' post='2788637'] Of course he played down the fact he gave his name to Manchester Band "The Hollies" too... [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damonjames Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 I was also there. I spent 4 years doing stage lighting for major concerts and productions like this, so along with being a musician, think I am somewhat qualified to comment on such things... In terms of the front of house sound, it was pretty bad to start with (not the worst I've ever heard) but it did improve as the night went on. The job was made incredibly difficult by the conditions, but both the placement and setup of the delay stacks wasn't great, I agree with the out of phase comments from the OP, plus I had I delay stack smack in the middle of my line of sight to the centre of the stage. From a lighting and AV point of view, I thought it was below what you would expect from a band the size of the foo's but wasn't appalling. The performance itself was really great, loads of energy from Dave, although it left him breathless at times, but Nate isn't the most animated of bass players.... The industry is changing so much now, that the big bands can't make "enough" (I use that term loosely) money by playing arena's anymore which is where they would blown the roof of somewhere like the MEN, so they have to go to open air stadium tours instead. it appears that they don't have the experience to pull them off with much conviction though. Personally, I bloody loved it, but I'm a dirty rock n roll fan so can deal with a performance that is a little rough and ready if it's delivered with a bunch of energy. if they looked they couldn't be assed, I wouldn't have tolerated it, but after 20 years playing these songs together, they seem to genuinely still love it and it makes it all the more enjoyable to watch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted June 2, 2015 Author Share Posted June 2, 2015 Wouldn't disagree with that, but what I would say is that it's ironic that the price to the hapless fan/punter goes up as the experience gets worse. "I know, we'll put three times as many people in an unsuitable venue, it'll probably sound arse, but if we charge them more money...erm, yeah, that's it, really." Ker-ching. Oh, and Dave lost me early doors with the "Hey, are you all going to work tomorrow after partying with us? We wanna play all night...Yeaaahhhh..." Best go on early and finish about half ten, then, Dave, so we can all get to bed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damonjames Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 He did though!! I thought he was just having a bit of banter, I do think he would have played all night if they would have let him! Finished on time with a great version of "best of you" I got goose bumps when he stopped and the whole crowd were singing the "whoa,whoa" but! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny_Innie Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 [quote name='Muzz' timestamp='1432825198' post='2785335'] ..........No bass other than a dull thud, harsh barky mids and fizzy treble ...... [/quote] It's not the stadium. It's them. They sound that way on their albums too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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