30507090 Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 This looks like an awesome bit of kit!! Sorry for a dumb question. I had t realised there was such a long, detailed trail here!! Quote
Iain Posted September 29, 2015 Posted September 29, 2015 Been using mine for a couple of months - practices with both bands and a few gigs including open air - it's been utterly faultless. Battery life even on rechargeable batteries is great too! Quote
Happy Jack Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 Finally found an issue! I put the receiver on my Pedaltrain Nano and powered everything with a Diageo daisy chain thingy. Used the polarity reversal cable for the first time. As soon as I stomped on the fuzz pedal I got an irritating wow-wow-wow underneath the bass tone. Swopped the fuzz pedal for another and got exactly the same problem. After five minutes of frustrated pluggery, it occurred to me that I had the receiver (with polarity reverser) as the first unit in the Diageo daisy chain, i.e. the other pedals received their power after it had passed the Smoothound. Swopped the power around so that the receiver became the last in line and the problem went away. Quote
EBS_freak Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 A power supply with isolated outputs would not show this problem. Its because you are reversing polarity on a daisy chain and I think you are running into ground problems. I don't know if it's really fair to call it a problem of the product (unless you consider the choice of polarity with regards to other fx pedals, flawed...?) Quote
Happy Jack Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 [quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1444223484' post='2881296'] I don't know if it's really fair to call it a problem of the product ... [/quote] Agreed. So I didn't. Quote
Happy Jack Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 [quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1444223883' post='2881300'] Agreed. So I didn't. [/quote] Oops ... except accidentally at the end. I meant to call it an issue. Quote
SmoothHoundChris Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 [quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1444223936' post='2881301'] Oops ... except accidentally at the end. I meant to call it an issue. [/quote] Ha ha. The politest non-complaint ever. EBS is right, the noise is caused by a ground loop between the receiver and effect pedal but it's not specifically down to the choice of centre-positive supply. Daisy chain supply shared between digital and analogue pedals is a common cause of noise. [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NweK7wVh_LQ"]Here's a video[/url] on the subject. Other well known wireless manufacturers say that you can only use the supplied adapter or an isolated supply like those from Voodoo Labs. In hindsight, I was a little rash when I said the receiver doesn't need isolated power because of the potential for this effect. Different rigs may vary but the safest ways to avoid ground loop noise like this is to use the supplied adapter or an isolated power supply. BTW I would recommend reading reviews before investing in one of the low cost 'isolated' supplies because I understand that some are more isolated than others. Quote
Happy Jack Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 Understood, but just to emphasise the point that all I had to do was to plug the pedals in using reverse order. Putting the receiver & polarity inverter [i][b]after [/b][/i]the other pedals completed cured the ... erm ... issue. Now all I need to do is find a fuzz pedal that doesn't wreck the bottom end of my tone. Quote
SmoothHoundChris Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 [quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1444230863' post='2881387'] Understood, but just to emphasise the point that all I had to do was to plug the pedals in using reverse order. Putting the receiver & polarity inverter [i][b]after [/b][/i]the other pedals completed cured the ... erm ... issue. [/quote] That's good to hear. It's possible that that is a real fix but a word of caution. The loudness of ground loop noise depends on the resistance in the connections. That resistance can change when you unplug things and plug them in again. I don't know that happened in this case but it's possible. Quote
rednose200 Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 Well after ordering a Smooth Hound I received it within 24 hours. I immediately noticed the quality of the build. It's strong and rugged which is what you need in a gigging band. Plugging it in it worked straight off. I didn't notice any time delay for tethering with it. If there was a little more treble in the tone I didn't notice it, although Alembic's are pretty zingy to be honest. Will try my ACG's tomorrow, but don't expect to notice anything there either. The receiver is really quite tiny and light, the guitar transmitter also small and has the feel of a quality item. All in all I am very very happy with it and can recommend it to the members. Previously I had used an Ashdown Freebass but stopped using it as I didn't like the tone modelling aspect, and the batteries had a pretty short life. I don't think anyone will be disappointed with this, and I am itching to use it in anger on stage. Chris (rednose200) Quote
SmoothHoundChris Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 We're at the [url="http://www.b-visible.co.uk/businesses/72/mojo.html"]Cheshire Guitar Show[/url] in Crewe tomorrow. Come and say hello if you're in the area and try out the Classic wireless for yourself! Quote
Happy Jack Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 In fact, if the signal's good enough you could come along to Nantwich instead ... Quote
SmoothHoundChris Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 Nantwich is five miles from Gresty Road so might be a touch on the optimistic side Quote
Woodinblack Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 [quote name='SmoothHoundChris' timestamp='1444230521' post='2881380'] EBS is right, the noise is caused by a ground loop between the receiver and effect pedal but it's not specifically down to the choice of centre-positive supply. Daisy chain supply shared between digital and analogue pedals is a common cause of noise. [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NweK7wVh_LQ"]Here's a video[/url] on the subject. [/quote] I got a real problem adding a fisher FX (which is digital) to my other effects which included a B3 (also digital). Taking either out of the loop worked as did running either of them on batteries. Got an isolated power supply here (£20) - problem gone. Quote
funkydamo Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 pulled the trigger and ordered. I have a gig Saturday so looking forward to breaking it in. Quote
SmoothHoundChris Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 [quote name='funkydamo' timestamp='1445287109' post='2890344'] pulled the trigger and ordered. I have a gig Saturday so looking forward to breaking it in. [/quote] Got it funkydamo. It'll ship first thing tomorrow. Quote
funkydamo Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 thanks mate, much appreciated. I'm surprisingly organised - also ordered a fxf adaptor as recommended off amazon & ordered a str-angled 70cm long patch lead. bring on the weekend! Quote
HazBeen Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 Just ordered one.... hope it does what it says on the tin, but going by this thread I should be fine. Quote
SmoothHoundChris Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 [quote name='HazBeen' timestamp='1445345807' post='2890713'] Just ordered one.... hope it does what it says on the tin, but going by this thread I should be fine. [/quote] Thanks HazBeen! A set is on its way to the Netherlands right now. Quote
Bobthedog Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 Just ordered one through Amazon along with the Neutrik adapter. I have never tried wireless before so looking forward to this. Quote
Dood Posted October 25, 2015 Author Posted October 25, 2015 I want to (quick release) mount mine in my 4u rack case, I just haven't decided how yet! I mean, that's a lot of pretty lights to hide, right?* * it's all about the lights. Quote
sbrag Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 Has anyone tried the Smooth Hound against the Sony system? They are the 2 I'm considering but most of the chat seems to be a comparison with the Line6. Cheers Quote
Bobthedog Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 Mine has just arrived. Sadly I will not get a chance to play with it until Sunday. It is also missing the Microsuction tape, any ideas as to a good replacement? Quote
SmoothHoundChris Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 [quote name='Bobthedog' timestamp='1445985034' post='2896012'] Mine has just arrived. Sadly I will not get a chance to play with it until Sunday. It is also missing the Microsuction tape, any ideas as to a good replacement? [/quote] Hi Bobthedog, Very sorry to hear that. Not sure how that happened. There'll be some Microsuction tape in the post tomorrow. Regards Chris Quote
Bobthedog Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 [quote name='SmoothHoundChris' timestamp='1445985217' post='2896016'] Hi Bobthedog, Very sorry to hear that. Not sure how that happened. There'll be some Microsuction tape in the post tomorrow. Regards Chris [/quote] Chris, thank you! That is customer service. Yup, there was just the sellotape (gluing the pages together) but not a huge issue. Quote
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