Interesting fact about Ibanez Premium series neck screws

[Woodinblack]

There are 4 screws that hold the neck on the SR1605.

Here are some interesting facts:

1. They are not all the same size. The two at the end of the body are longer than the 2 at the end of the neck.

2. If you put the long screw in the short screw hole and did it up very tight, you could in theory put the end of the screw through the front of the fingerboard.

3. The screws on an ibanez are not as strong as the fingerboard!


Course, you would have to be some kind of idiot to find that out..



Anyone know where you get replacement short screws for the neck of an ibanez?

Edited June 21, 2015 by Woodinblack

[Kev]

Well, that is something of a design flaw!

Contact the UK dealer, they will probably sort you one without charge if they are nice enough?

[Grangur]

Fact 2 is also true of Overwaters, so I heard. I have heard that someone working there did it on one occasion.

[Woodinblack]

I am glad I didn't do that, a lot more expensive than a new screw

[Ghost_Bass]

Found that on a Maison bass i have, the back screws are longer as well as the neck heel, that's the justification i can find for having two lenghts of screws.

[Andyjr1515]

Warmoth strat bodies are the same. They put a warning label on the heel telling you not use full length screws at the front. Not sure about their basses, but they may be the same.

[dincz]

Cort are the same - and probably made the Ibanez.

[neepheid]

Design flaw, or pay attention when dismantling/reassembling?

[PlungerModerno]

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Design flaw, or pay attention when dismantling/reassembling?
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If it makes the neck joint easier to play at or beyond then it's a great design.

[Woodinblack]

It is a very good design as long as you pay attention when assembling!

[PlungerModerno]

[quote name='Woodinblack' timestamp='1435700608' post='2811703']
It is a very good design as long as you pay attention when assembling!
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Ah. That would be the issue.
I'd have used two different size screws in length and bore (e.g. an extra 1or 2 mm on the screw shaft or screw head diameter?). I'm sure there's a way to do that.

[Woodinblack]

Probably, but they didn't. They used little black screws that if you looked at them all together you would say were the same sort of screws, similar to fender neck screws but in black without the blank area (same pitch / length / bore). Just two of them are actually shorter.

[neepheid]

When I dismantle anything, I try to keep track of which screws came out of which holes. Dunno why, probably OCD or learned by dismantling laptops with their myriad screw sizes.

[Woodinblack]

Funnily enough I do for electronic items or even engines etc, but I had never known the screws to be different

[3below]

I would be surprised if the screws are anything 'seriously' special. If they do prove difficult to track down you might want to cut down some regular size neck screws and file / grind a lead in profile. Lucky with the fingerboard , makes me wonder is there something solid like a steel insert to prevent that very issue. That would be some engineering forethought.

[PlungerModerno]

[quote name='neepheid' timestamp='1435768473' post='2812294']
When I dismantle anything, I try to keep track of which screws came out of which holes. Dunno why, probably OCD or learned by dismantling laptops with their myriad screw sizes.
[/quote]

That is something I've had . . . fun with in the past. Screws that have the same thread and bore, but slightly different lengths, or screws that look the same at a glance but have different threads so get jammed if they get mixed up . . . FUN!