zawinul Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Hi peeps Ok I'm looking for the most exaggerated envelope filter out there! Something that sounds more squelchy than a Glastonbury mudfest Think of Bootsy on acid! i've had a EHX q tron in the past found it a was very noisy and also too sensitive, If i played hard the sound went very weird Any suggestions ?? cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykesbass Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Not tried any but did listen to lots of online reviews (yes, I know they're far from perfect) and in that limited setting the MXR stood head and shoulders above the rest to my ears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo0tsy Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 The Chunk 00 Funk Mk II (or Octavius Squeezer which shares the same filter circuit) is the squelchiest, gloopiest filter I've ever tried. I own both and they're great pedals. The Iron Ether Xerograph Deluxe is also meant to sound quite similar. Both of these filters can get very extreme sounding. The Mu Fx Tru Tron 3x is also a lot more powerful than the Q Trons or original Mu-Tron, is fat sounding and can get very wet and the down-sweep is really nice and chewy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zawinul Posted July 4, 2015 Author Share Posted July 4, 2015 [quote name='Bo0tsy' timestamp='1436013386' post='2814337'] The Chunk 00 Funk Mk II (or Octavius Squeezer which shares the same filter circuit) is the squelchiest, gloopiest filter I've ever tried. I own both and they're great pedals. The Iron Ether Xerograph Deluxe is also meant to sound quite similar. Both of these filters can get very extreme sounding. The Mu Fx Tru Tron 3x is also a lot more powerful than the Q Trons or original Mu-Tron, is fat sounding and can get very wet and the down-sweep is really nice and chewy. [/quote] cheers, sounds what im looking for. i bet they are all expensive!! ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zawinul Posted July 4, 2015 Author Share Posted July 4, 2015 neither even available to buy anywhere so no good Whats actually buyable!??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo0tsy Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 The Xerograph and Tru Tron 3x are both still in production. The Chunk pedals appear from time to time on eBay and on these forums. Another option is the EHX Enigma? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anDy LAKIN Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 trouser flapping? hoe about swinging your pants https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1gBT2XELjI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassnut62 Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 (edited) No question, it has to be the MuFx TruTron3x, made by Mike Beigel himself and Bootsy is a fan.... You can get them direct from Mu-Fx and while you are at it, I would recommend getting the Octave Divider too. There are some seriously GAS-inducing vids online of both on their own and used together. The TruTron3x is a modern upgrade of the original legendary MuTron, which is exactly what Bootsy used to get those funky sounds. They are not cheap though and you need to get a 12v AC power supply into an unusual connection; but you can pick up UK 240v supplies of this type online for about £8 I think. I bought both pedals and negotiated a $15 discount to leave out the US PSUs to help me buy UK PSUs instead. If you go down this funky path, message me and I'll dig out details of where I got it all. PS. I used to have a mini Q-Tron and found it a bit too uncontrollable with nasty volume spikes. When tame it sounded great; but not a patch on the TruTron, which is actually better than the original MuTron, as confirmed by bassplayer in my band who has both. The Q-Tron was designed by Mike Beigel too, after he lost control of Musitronics; it was based on the MuTron, but made cheaper for EHX to produce. Edited July 6, 2015 by Bassnut62 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulo m Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 3 leaf proton has been a nice, small squelch.. move for me' i had an mxr b.e.f & hated it!!! way too quacky & lazer beam effects ....which got totally lost in the mix of the band... ALL of these filters are subjective & of personal taste... Another recommendation of mine the Groove Regulator by 3 leaf' check out the reviews!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerster135 Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 (edited) Defo agree on the Agent 00Funk MK2. Had one before I got a Moog LPF (which I sold to you, I think!?...) and it was ridiculously wet and squelchy! I only got rid of it at the time cos it was a bit too extreme for my intended application, but I'd really like one again now... P.s. Probably not great using Bootsy as an example for a particular pedal maker, he seems to pop up on adverts for loads of envelope filters (Chunk Systems and EHX included!). Edited July 27, 2015 by bakerster135 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_sub Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 MXR is really good and can sound pretty wild if you adjust Delay / Q controls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 This one is on my radar: http://pedalsandeffects.com/review-fwonk-envelope-filter-by-mr-black/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_5 Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 A Modded FX25 does it for me - switch it to a low pass filter (reroute the output from the LM13600 chip), and change one of the silicon diodes for a Germanium one (lower forward voltage) to tweak the sensitivity and you're laughing. I do realise that not everyone wants to take things apart as much as I do. Mutrons are really nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 (edited) Not had the pleasure of trying an original, but my Mutron III clone does it for me when it comes to Bootzilla tones ☺ Edited July 27, 2015 by nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_thebassman Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Late in here but my vote is either a love tone meatball or a HAZ Mutron. I guess you could go boutique and get a build done as along as you have something to model it on?? I guess by now you have what you are looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisK1975 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Saw youtube rig rundown video recently of Doug Wimbish singing the praises of the DOD FX25 unit - would be cheap as chips if you could find one (and like the sound!)......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 [quote name='zawinul' timestamp='1435998614' post='2814216'] Bootsy on acid! [/quote] I think that's the definition of 'Tautology'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zawinul Posted September 4, 2015 Author Share Posted September 4, 2015 No still looking I missed out on a Source audio on ebay but that looks a bit complicated, not looking for millions of option just one good one!! Not heard of some of these, i'll keep looking!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duarte Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 (edited) I bought a Moog Low Pass Filter last week - this thing is ludicrous. I've owned all sorts of envelope filters and this one is the king. It is so warm, thick and squelchy, but it can do theremin and laser gun sounds. Couldn't recommend it enough. Getting an expression pedal today! Edited September 4, 2015 by Duarte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuco Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 [quote name='Duarte' timestamp='1441356917' post='2858160'] I bought a Moog Low Pass Filter last week - this thing is ludicrous. I've owned all sorts of envelope filters and this one is the king. It is so warm, thick and squelchy, but it can do theremin and laser gun sounds. Couldn't recommend it enough. Getting an expression pedal today! [/quote] Thats when the REAL fun starts Also get a TRS patch cable (or 2 or 3 or 4) and experiment, try patching the env out to the cutoff etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zawinul Posted September 5, 2015 Author Share Posted September 5, 2015 [quote name='Duarte' timestamp='1441356917' post='2858160'] I bought a Moog Low Pass Filter last week - this thing is ludicrous. I've owned all sorts of envelope filters and this one is the king. It is so warm, thick and squelchy, but it can do theremin and laser gun sounds. Couldn't recommend it enough. Getting an expression pedal today! [/quote] That sounds like an option!! I'll get looking.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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