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My Favorite bit of the Bash..

Me 'Alrite Lozz, I see you've dropped the Tonehammer and your playing an SVT now-a-days?'
Lozz 'No, I'm playing a Bugera'
Me *looks confused*
Me 'I don't mean to be funny like, but it looks like an SVT, It even says Ampeg on the front?'
Lozz 'Oh yeah, I bought it from Discreet. He screwed an Ampeg badge on it'

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Lozz196 Grand Master

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[quote name='Billy Apple' timestamp='1443307590' post='2873820']
My Favorite bit of the Bash..

Me 'Alrite Lozz, I see you've dropped the Tonehammer and your playing an SVT now-a-days?'
Lozz 'No, I'm playing a Bugera'
Me *looks confused*
Me 'I don't mean to be funny like, but it looks like an SVT, It even says Ampeg on the front?'
Lozz 'Oh yeah, I bought it from Discreet. He screwed an Ampeg badge on it'

:lol:
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I think it was Discreets way of re-branding...................

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[quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1443302492' post='2873784']
And without a doubt it won`t be one of my own, as my gear always polls last in the these shoot-out events :angry:
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Well if you insist on putting your rig up against a £60 ProSound cab from Maplins, you have only yourself to blame. :yarr:

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Thanks to everyone who organised this, it was really good fun and a great day. It was great to put a few more faces to names and catch up with folk I haven't met for a while and try some very nice basses as well. Sadly, I had to skip out and missed Trevor's Wal talk due to the joys of babysitting duties last night, but the cab shootout was very good as well as Lozz deciding he didn't like his own cabs which was hilariously funny.

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Lozz196 Grand Master

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So, yesterday being a great day and all, below are the results form the cab shoot-out. I`ll also copy this to a post in Amps/Cabs so that others who might not click onto this one - how very dare they - can see what happened.

So, the idea was, following on from last years amp shootout, to use the same bass and amp into a variety of cabs, and see if there was a particular theme/overall winner. As such, using my 2015 US Precision into a fairly neutral sounding Tecamp Puma 900 with all eq set at midday (in the hope it would be a flat setting), the cabs below were investigated. We did a section on 2x12s which seems to be a very poular cab nowadays, 1x15s, 1x12s, and then a very small misc section. For the purposes of the test if the cabs had tweeters I set them to be full on. I`ll list each cab, and the amount of votes it got from the audience as to whether it was their fave.

So the 2x12 section, starting with my very own cab:

Barefaced Super12T - 1
Schroeder 212 - 8
Bergantino CN212 - 9
EBS Neo 212 - 2
EAD 2x12 - 5

So a winner for the Bergantino, and pretty fed up that I made my own cab come last!

Onto the 1x15s

Markbass Traveller 115 - 3
Barefaced Compact (Gen2) - 8
Schroeder 115 - 11
Barefaced Compact (Gen 1) - 3

So a winner for Schroeder

Onto the 1x12s

Barefaced Super Midget (Gen 3) - 3
Schroeder 112 - 3
Fearless 112 (with mid speaker, think a 6?) - 13
Barefaced Big Baby2 (Gen 3) - 7
Prosound PA Cab - 2

A runaway victory for the Fearless then.

The misc section was very small, being OBBMs Phil Jones 4x5 - so it won that section hands down (well done Dave).

So onto the overall faves then, putting the winners from each section above:

Fearless 112 - 4
Schroeder 115 - 5
Bergantino CN212 - 20

So overall the Berg tops it, but it was interesting that over the range of cabs that Schroeder, given the lack of presence of their cabs over here, did so well in all sections. I`m sure a lot of it is to do with the cabs fitting my attack-based playing style, but overall the Schros did very well. Many thanks to Brian (Oldman) for bringing them along.

So, what were my impressions of the cabs used? Well my fave for the type of music I currently play was the Schroeder 212, as it really adds a cutting presence, a hi-mid bias I would say. For bands I`ve been in previously it would have been the Berg. But there were four real revelations for me:

1. The Barefaced Super Midget Gen 3 - such an amazing amount of sound from such a little cab. And quality sound too, not just volume.
2. Likewise with the Phil Jones 4x5, real presence and quality sound.
3. The Prosound PA Speaker - apparently £60 from Maplins. Did the job fine, and wasn`t lacking in any way.
4. I managed, yet again, to get my own gear to come last. This is a pattern that seems to be repeating itself.

But the main thing was, given the variety of cab brands, sizes, configurations, was that I would have been happy to use any of them at a gig. Sure there were nuances to each cab, but overall this shootout showed me that gear is gear, and sure, we all like to get our own sounds if possible, but workable sounds can be gotten from an array of different speaker cabs. Maybe we all obsess just that bit too much (I`ve certainly established that I do from this).

Lastly I`d like to thank Nik and Colin for asking me to do this, it was great fun, and to get to play through such an amazing range of cabs was just amazing.

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I have just uploaded three short videos from the cab shootout. Normal test in the first video, cheap cab tested in the second video, mini cab tested in the third. The camera's automatic sound compression makes it impossible to hear any difference between the cabs - just watch it to get a rough idea of the proceedings.

Vid No 1 [url="https://youtu.be/-j3sFD6yXLQ"]https://youtu.be/-j3sFD6yXLQ[/url]
Vid No 2 [url="https://youtu.be/uZisOrr4a4s"]https://youtu.be/uZisOrr4a4s[/url]
Vid No 3 [url="https://youtu.be/TP1ncRrZbWw"]https://youtu.be/TP1ncRrZbWw[/url]

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[quote name='bluejay' timestamp='1443372028' post='2874193']
I have just uploaded three short videos from the cab shootout. Normal test in the first video, cheap cab tested in the second video, mini cab tested in the third. [s]The camera's automatic sound compression[/s] [i]The fact that all cabs sound the same[/i] makes it impossible to hear any difference between the cabs - just watch it to get a rough idea of the proceedings.

Vid No 1 [url="https://youtu.be/-j3sFD6yXLQ"]https://youtu.be/-j3sFD6yXLQ[/url]
Vid No 2 [url="https://youtu.be/uZisOrr4a4s"]https://youtu.be/uZisOrr4a4s[/url]
Vid No 3 [url="https://youtu.be/TP1ncRrZbWw"]https://youtu.be/TP1ncRrZbWw[/url]
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Fixed. :mellow:



:lol: :P Just joshin'. Thanks for posting all this stuff. B)

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silverfoxnik Grand Master

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[quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1443365096' post='2874128']
So, yesterday being a great day and all, below are the results form the cab shoot-out. I`ll also copy this to a post in Amps/Cabs so that others who might not click onto this one - how very dare they - can see what happened.

So, the idea was, following on from last years amp shootout, to use the same bass and amp into a variety of cabs, and see if there was a particular theme/overall winner. As such, using my 2015 US Precision into a fairly neutral sounding Tecamp Puma 900 with all eq set at midday (in the hope it would be a flat setting), the cabs below were investigated. We did a section on 2x12s which seems to be a very poular cab nowadays, 1x15s, 1x12s, and then a very small misc section. For the purposes of the test if the cabs had tweeters I set them to be full on. I`ll list each cab, and the amount of votes it got from the audience as to whether it was their fave.

So the 2x12 section, starting with my very own cab:

Barefaced Super12T - 1
Schroeder 212 - 8
Bergantino CN212 - 9
EBS Neo 212 - 2
EAD 2x12 - 5

So a winner for the Bergantino, and pretty fed up that I made my own cab come last!

Onto the 1x15s

Markbass Traveller 115 - 3
Barefaced Compact (Gen2) - 8
Schroeder 115 - 11
Barefaced Compact (Gen 1) - 3

So a winner for Schroeder

Onto the 1x12s

Barefaced Super Midget (Gen 3) - 3
Schroeder 112 - 3
Fearless 112 (with mid speaker, think a 6?) - 13
Barefaced Big Baby2 (Gen 3) - 7
Prosound PA Cab - 2

A runaway victory for the Fearless then.

The misc section was very small, being OBBMs Phil Jones 4x5 - so it won that section hands down (well done Dave).

So onto the overall faves then, putting the winners from each section above:

Fearless 112 - 4
Schroeder 115 - 5
Bergantino CN212 - 20

So overall the Berg tops it, but it was interesting that over the range of cabs that Schroeder, given the lack of presence of their cabs over here, did so well in all sections. I`m sure a lot of it is to do with the cabs fitting my attack-based playing style, but overall the Schros did very well. Many thanks to Brian (Oldman) for bringing them along.

So, what were my impressions of the cabs used? Well my fave for the type of music I currently play was the Schroeder 212, as it really adds a cutting presence, a hi-mid bias I would say. For bands I`ve been in previously it would have been the Berg. But there were four real revelations for me:

1. The Barefaced Super Midget Gen 3 - such an amazing amount of sound from such a little cab. And quality sound too, not just volume.
2. Likewise with the Phil Jones 4x5, real presence and quality sound.
3. The Prosound PA Speaker - apparently £60 from Maplins. Did the job fine, and wasn`t lacking in any way.
4. I managed, yet again, to get my own gear to come last. This is a pattern that seems to be repeating itself.

But the main thing was, given the variety of cab brands, sizes, configurations, was that I would have been happy to use any of them at a gig. Sure there were nuances to each cab, but overall this shootout showed me that gear is gear, and sure, we all like to get our own sounds if possible, but workable sounds can be gotten from an array of different speaker cabs. Maybe we all obsess just that bit too much (I`ve certainly established that I do from this).

Lastly I`d like to thank Nik and Colin for asking me to do this, it was great fun, and to get to play through such an amazing range of cabs was just amazing.
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Great work Lozz! Thanks... :)

Quite how you managed to play those 2 bass lines so well so many times over, in a room full of bass players, I'll never know?

You obviously have nerves of steel!

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[quote name='bluejay' timestamp='1443372028' post='2874193']
I have just uploaded three short videos from the cab shootout. Normal test in the first video, cheap cab tested in the second video, mini cab tested in the third. The camera's automatic sound compression makes it impossible to hear any difference between the cabs - just watch it to get a rough idea of the proceedings.

Vid No 1 [url="https://youtu.be/-j3sFD6yXLQ"]https://youtu.be/-j3sFD6yXLQ[/url]
Vid No 2 [url="https://youtu.be/uZisOrr4a4s"]https://youtu.be/uZisOrr4a4s[/url]
Vid No 3 [url="https://youtu.be/TP1ncRrZbWw"]https://youtu.be/TP1ncRrZbWw[/url]
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Thanks Silvia!

That Prosound cab from Maplins sounds pretty good to me...

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Lozz196 Grand Master

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[quote name='silverfoxnik' timestamp='1443373376' post='2874200']
Great work Lozz! Thanks... :)

Quite how you managed to play those 2 bass lines so well so many times over, in a room full of bass players, I'll never know?

You obviously have nerves of steel!
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Nothing to it Nik, in a playing coompetition I`d probably lose hands-down, but I wasn`t showcasing myself, it was the gear that was the focal point.

Or at least that`s how I looked at it so as to stop me becoming a quivering bag of nerves.

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[quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1443365096' post='2874128']
So, yesterday being a great day and all, below are the results form the cab shoot-out. I`ll also copy this to a post in Amps/Cabs so that others who might not click onto this one - how very dare they - can see what happened.

So, the idea was, following on from last years amp shootout, to use the same bass and amp into a variety of cabs, and see if there was a particular theme/overall winner. As such, using my 2015 US Precision into a fairly neutral sounding Tecamp Puma 900 with all eq set at midday (in the hope it would be a flat setting), the cabs below were investigated. We did a section on 2x12s which seems to be a very poular cab nowadays, 1x15s, 1x12s, and then a very small misc section. For the purposes of the test if the cabs had tweeters I set them to be full on. I`ll list each cab, and the amount of votes it got from the audience as to whether it was their fave.

So the 2x12 section, starting with my very own cab:

Barefaced Super12T - 1
Schroeder 212 - 8
Bergantino CN212 - 9
EBS Neo 212 - 2
EAD 2x12 - 5

So a winner for the Bergantino, and pretty fed up that I made my own cab come last!

Onto the 1x15s

Markbass Traveller 115 - 3
Barefaced Compact (Gen2) - 8
Schroeder 115 - 11
Barefaced Compact (Gen 1) - 3

So a winner for Schroeder

Onto the 1x12s

Barefaced Super Midget (Gen 3) - 3
Schroeder 112 - 3
Fearless 112 (with mid speaker, think a 6?) - 13
Barefaced Big Baby2 (Gen 3) - 7
Prosound PA Cab - 2

A runaway victory for the Fearless then.

The misc section was very small, being OBBMs Phil Jones 4x5 - so it won that section hands down (well done Dave).

So onto the overall faves then, putting the winners from each section above:

Fearless 112 - 4
Schroeder 115 - 5
Bergantino CN212 - 20

So overall the Berg tops it, but it was interesting that over the range of cabs that Schroeder, given the lack of presence of their cabs over here, did so well in all sections. I`m sure a lot of it is to do with the cabs fitting my attack-based playing style, but overall the Schros did very well. Many thanks to Brian (Oldman) for bringing them along.

So, what were my impressions of the cabs used? Well my fave for the type of music I currently play was the Schroeder 212, as it really adds a cutting presence, a hi-mid bias I would say. For bands I`ve been in previously it would have been the Berg. But there were four real revelations for me:

1. The Barefaced Super Midget Gen 3 - such an amazing amount of sound from such a little cab. And quality sound too, not just volume.
2. Likewise with the Phil Jones 4x5, real presence and quality sound.
3. The Prosound PA Speaker - apparently £60 from Maplins. Did the job fine, and wasn`t lacking in any way.
4. I managed, yet again, to get my own gear to come last. This is a pattern that seems to be repeating itself.

But the main thing was, given the variety of cab brands, sizes, configurations, was that I would have been happy to use any of them at a gig. Sure there were nuances to each cab, but overall this shootout showed me that gear is gear, and sure, we all like to get our own sounds if possible, but workable sounds can be gotten from an array of different speaker cabs. Maybe we all obsess just that bit too much (I`ve certainly established that I do from this).

Lastly I`d like to thank Nik and Colin for asking me to do this, it was great fun, and to get to play through such an amazing range of cabs was just amazing.
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Lozz, I thought you used 2 x Tecamp Puma 300's for the shoot out not a single 900! :unsure:

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