discreet Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 [quote name='blue' timestamp='1436723080' post='2820234'] ...it's actually a valid and good business model. [/quote] Totally agree! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILL POSTERS Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 (edited) [quote name='blue' timestamp='1436723080' post='2820234'] For those of us that are very active in bar band business it's actually a valid and good business model. Blue [/quote] Cant argue with that. Its just not the English way. Edited July 12, 2015 by BILL POSTERS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 In some of the clubs it seems the standard way of getting paid, when the promoter started getting funny about the money, was to pull out your pistol and put it on the table. As a reminder that you wanted [i]all[/i] the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 [quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1436726527' post='2820268'] In some of the clubs it seems the standard way of getting paid, when the promoter started getting funny about the money, was to pull out your pistol and put it on the table. As a reminder that you wanted [i]all[/i] the money. [/quote] Going straight to the promoter is not uncommon for pro bands today. Ever go to a concert and it's way past show time and you think there is some kind of problem. Usually the delay is caused over money issues that have to be resolved with the promoter. Blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 [quote name='BILL POSTERS' timestamp='1436725495' post='2820252'] Cant argue with that. Its just not the English way. [/quote] It not the American way either. It's the Smart way. Blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbayne Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 The backing band was called Rocking Horse apparently. Never heard of them, but they did a good job of keeping it together. Nice sound from the Thunderbird rocking bassist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randythoades Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 It is a bit scary but quite fun when the band don't know what song. In our rockabilly band we do quickfire playing so everyone has to pick a song in turn (from the repertoire, granted) and just start without announcing and everyone just has to come in as best they can. Keeps you on you toes and keeps the set list fresh. As per Mr Berry though, it helps when most of the songs are similar in structure. Not sure I would like to gig it like that mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevB Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Didn't he get done for secretly filming women in the toilets at a club he owned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casapete Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 I would love to play bass for Chuck! The challenge of doing a good job would be enormous but would relish the chance. Incidentally, believe the bassist in Rocking Horse could have been Billy Kinsley, ex Merseybeats / Merseys. Seem to remember he played Gibson Thunderbird / Firebirds too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevB Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Re Kinsley, that looks about right reading the wiki entry here; [url="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Kinsley"]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Kinsley[/url] Not a bad career, playing on 'Sorrow' in the 60's. Backing Chuck then Rod Stewart, being part of Liverpool Express etc plus all those paying sessions on the 'Top Of The Pops' covers albums - someone had to play 'em! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulWarning Posted July 14, 2015 Author Share Posted July 14, 2015 [quote name='KevB' timestamp='1436884449' post='2821701'] Didn't he get done for secretly filming women in the toilets at a club he owned? [/quote]they were security cameras, alright!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevB Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 [quote name='PaulWarning' timestamp='1436885224' post='2821712'] they were security cameras, alright!!!! [/quote] Ahhh, [i]that's[/i] why he coughed up over a million dollars to the claimants [url="http://rulefortytwo.com/secret-rock-knowledge/chapter-8/chuck-berry-bathroom-cameras/"]http://rulefortytwo.com/secret-rock-knowledge/chapter-8/chuck-berry-bathroom-cameras/[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casapete Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Rocking Horse were - Billy Kinsley / bass, Mike Snow / piano, Jim Campbell / guitar and Dave Harrison / drums. More footage on YouTube -'Chuck Berry Lost Broadcasts 2012' show the band in rehearsal in Germany. [u]Chuck's rider details here -[/u] Chuck Berry. The father of rock guitar travels light on the road and is all business. After receiving his total fee via bank wire at least three days before the engagement, Chuck hops a plane, checking his Gibson ES-335, stereo, and one bag. Once Chuck arrives at his destined airport, he is given the keys to the largest, gassed up, four-door Mercedes Benz they can find (excluding Japan), a key to a suite at a “five star” hotel, and $200 per diem to cover his food. Once at the venue, in addition to the normal sound and stage requirements, Chuck demands a card-carrying American Federation of Musicians band (drummer, bass player, and piano player) that knows his songs. Chuck also needs two matching “unaltered Fender Dual Showman” heads with cabinets and a guitar cable. A friend of mine did one of these Chuck gigs. He said there was no rehearsal. They stood onstage for about an hour before the show waiting. Chuck walked on two minutes before the curtain opened, plugged in his guitar without tuning, hit an out-of-tune chord to make sure the amp was on, then turned to the band and said, “You all better know the songs. We’re starting with ‘Roll Over Beethoven.’” Not a bad day at the office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevB Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 [quote name='casapete' timestamp='1436886507' post='2821725'] They stood onstage for about an hour before the show waiting. Chuck walked on two minutes before the curtain opened, plugged in his guitar without tuning, hit an out-of-tune chord to make sure the amp was on[/quote] There was no one back then to get up onstage, tell him he was 'polluting their venue' and shoo them off into the wings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILL POSTERS Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 [quote name='KevB' timestamp='1436884449' post='2821701'] Didn't he get done for secretly filming women in the toilets at a club he owned? [/quote][quote name='KevB' timestamp='1436884449' post='2821701'] Didn't he get done for secretly filming women in the toilets at a club he owned? [/quote] Also did 5 years for transporting a 14 year old white girl across the state line for sex. Convicted twice I think, because the white judge at the first trial made racist remarks and the first verdict was squashed.on appeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevB Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Think there might have been an armed robbery conviction in his youth as well. Truth is there probably aren't many rock n rollers of his longevity who don't have a few skeletons in the closet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILL POSTERS Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 [quote name='KevB' timestamp='1436896118' post='2821858'] Think there might have been an armed robbery conviction in his youth as well. Truth is there probably aren't many rock n rollers of his longevity who don't have a few skeletons in the closet. [/quote] Precisely. Look at Gary Glitter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicandthensome Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 I’ve got a feeling that the piano player is Lou Martin from Rory Gallagher’s band and Killing Floor. Sadly Lou passed away in 2012. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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