mrn1989 Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 (edited) Im currently using a LMT800 head with x2 102P (2x10 Traveler) cabs and would like a little bit more thump but don't want to go up to the bigger 1x15, so heres what I'm thinking..... LMT800 2x10 Traveler (102P) 1x12 Traveler (121H) Would swapping a 2x10 out for a 1x12 give me better lows? I really do not want a 1x15" so no need to recommend it Current setup. [attachment=196203:IMG_1348.JPG] Edited July 13, 2015 by mrn1989 Quote
mrn1989 Posted July 13, 2015 Author Posted July 13, 2015 [quote name='Grangur' timestamp='1436785766' post='2820654'] I would have thought so, but I'm following. [/quote] How do you find your Barefaced? Does it have an even spread i.e. lows and highs Quote
Grangur Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 Hard to say. I love it, but "The BigOne" also has a 6" speaker in there too. I also have a MarkBass 12" combo. The combo has good all-round tone, it's zingier than the Barefaced, but still good low-down. I always find 10s too full of treble. That said Gary Mac's 4x10 MarkBass sound good live. Maybe I should say; I'm a lounge-playing warrior. Not playing live. So "needs" can be different. The other thing to watch is Barefaced and MarkBass have different tones. Neither are zingy, but others will know more about this. Lozz will be along later. He changed from MarkBass to Barefaced. I'm sure he'll be able to tell you more about this too. Quote
mrn1989 Posted July 13, 2015 Author Posted July 13, 2015 Ok thanks @Grangur I might just trade one of my 102P for a 121H and see how I get on. Barefaced are a big investment so if I do go for it I want to be sure Quote
largo Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 I presume you've tried turning the Low or especially the Mid-Low up on the amp? Quote
mrn1989 Posted July 13, 2015 Author Posted July 13, 2015 [quote name='largo' timestamp='1436790772' post='2820740'] I presume you've tried turning the Low or especially the Mid-Low up on the amp? [/quote] Yea I've tried different eq options Quote
Muzz Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 I can't see the 2x10 being less in the lows than a 12". It all depends on your playing volume, but if you're finding 2x2x10s not enough in the lows (with appropriate EQing), I can't see a single MB 12" in a smaller box giving you what you need. I'd also try not to think in terms of speaker diameter alone - I've had a BF 2x12" which had much, much more in the low lows than a 2x15" Schroeder I had. I've had a MB 1x12, a 4x10, I've currently got 2x1x15s (the combo and extension speaker), and I'm using a Compact and a Midget (I used to have a Super 12 and a Big Baby 2). Quote
Grangur Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 You need to go try some. Here's a good opportunity for you. http://basschat.co.uk/topic/265772-barefaced-midget-t-and-barefaced-compact-2nd-gen/ Quote
JTUK Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 210 over 112 for too. This would be an example of where I'd run the 2x210's and expect the sound to 'bloom's somewhat. I prefered the 2x210 sound to a 212 plus 210, marginally...and from my POV rather than the audience. The 2x210 certainly didn't suffer from lack of low. The other thing that comes to mind is that a lot of bass players put too much emphasis on 'lows' but you'd have to hear in context to know who was one of them. IME, bass is too bassy, about 9 times out of 10.. Quote
xgsjx Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 It's down to cab size rather than driver size. If you've not got the lows, try the 102 STD cabs. Bigger cabs = bigger lows with the Markbass cabs. Quote
chrismuzz Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 [quote name='xgsjx' timestamp='1436794114' post='2820779'] It's down to cab size rather than driver size. If you've not got the lows, try the 102 STD cabs. Bigger cabs = bigger lows with the Markbass cabs. [/quote] I was about to suggest the same thing. Using their front ported 4x10 I was getting terrifying amounts of bass! I use the sealed one now which is the same size and it's just perfect. Same huge sound, just a little tighter Quote
Iain Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 [quote name='mrn1989' timestamp='1436783498' post='2820623'] I really do not want a 1x15" so no need to recommend it Current setup. [attachment=196203:IMG_1348.JPG] [/quote] My practise rig (now live is Barefaced...) is a Traveller 112 and 115. With hindsight I'd have gone with 2 x 112. You won't need a 2x10 as the horn is the 12 is much nicer than the piezo in teh 10s... Quote
Muzz Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 [quote name='xgsjx' timestamp='1436794114' post='2820779'] It's down to cab size rather than driver size. If you've not got the lows, try the 102 STD cabs. Bigger cabs = bigger lows with the Markbass cabs. [/quote] D'you know, this makes more sense than my whole ramble above. It was a busy day in work... Quote
Iain Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 [quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1436792423' post='2820762'] The other thing that comes to mind is that a lot of bass players put too much emphasis on 'lows' but you'd have to hear in context to know who was one of them. IME, bass is too bassy, about 9 times out of 10.. [/quote] I run my amp with the low bass cut on the EQ for just this reason, suits the rock/metal/punk we play. Quote
mybass Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 [quote name='mrn1989' timestamp='1436783498' post='2820623'] Im currently using a LMT800 head with x2 102P (2x10 Traveler) cabs and would like a little bit more thump but don't want to go up to the bigger 1x15, so heres what I'm thinking..... LMT800 2x10 Traveler (102P) 1x12 Traveler (121H) Would swapping a 2x10 out for a 1x12 give me better lows? I really do not want a 1x15" so no need to recommend it Current setup. [attachment=196203:IMG_1348.JPG] [/quote] The larger Markbass 2x10 gives more low end. I use both larger and traveller 2x10 stacked, sometimes with bigger cab on the top to hear a bit more bottom end. Quote
lojo Posted July 14, 2015 Posted July 14, 2015 I've got front ported Markbass 210s and they put out more than enough , would the lack of ports of the travelers reduce that? Quote
Telebass Posted July 14, 2015 Posted July 14, 2015 There is no lack of ports - they're at the back... Quote
chrismuzz Posted July 14, 2015 Posted July 14, 2015 Ports are at the back which allows the cab to be smaller, therefore more portable. You lose a bit of low end (but not through the PA if you DI, obviously!) Quote
chris_b Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 The best sound I heard out of a Markbass rig was a guy using 2 Standard 102HF cabs. More punch and thump than a 210 and 112 rig, and much more than Traveller cabs can manage. Quote
Handwired Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 I've owned both the 410 MB cabs and the front ported one went lower than any cab I've ever owned/tried by a long way. Quote
Prime_BASS Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 (edited) Depends what you mean by 'lows' and 'thump' You should try and pin point what you actually want from them. I had a pair of those and never wanted for any more low mid thump, and prefered them stacked vertically, which was a lot more clearer through the low mids to high mids. I doubt that changing one for any other cab size (apart from something really huge) is going to make a real difference, apart from maybe some sort of pseudo belief it's changed from just thinking it's changed due to having a 15 or some such. Edited August 5, 2015 by Prime_BASS Quote
Prime_BASS Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 [quote name='mrn1989' timestamp='1438772625' post='2837053'] Gone for a Barefaced Super twin now [/quote] Bruh, destroys people Quote
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