bennifer Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 (edited) Looking to get myself my first effects setup. Figured i'd try out the Zoom unit seeing everyone is raving about them so much. Having looked into it theres a few different versions, a £100 odd one, the u, and a £40 odd one, just the plain b2.1. Whats the real world difference? I don't need a USB interface or a volume pedal - just want to experiment with a bit of amp modelling tones, overdrive, compression, delay and of course have a tuner. Is there any reason to go for the more expensive one or will the cheapy do all of those things at the same kind of quality? Cheers! (Edit - ok, im even more confused, theres the b1 which is £40, the b2 which is £60 and the b2.1u whch is £100 odd - which ones would do me proud?) Edited September 1, 2008 by bennifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 the B2 and B2.1U are identical apart from the expression pedal. So if your not gunna use the pedal, then get the B2 stay away from the B1's, they aint the same quality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galilee Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 I've never used my pedal yet. In all my custom patches, I don't assign it to anything at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 Try assigning the exp pedal to: Phaser/Flange/Trem speed Distortion gain Volume, with some delay on the patch to do some swells. It's fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassBus Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 +1 The pedal is more than just a volume pedal. It can be assigned to all sorts of effects and can be used to bring them in or take them out. You can also use it to take your volume back to your own preset level and then boost it for, say, a solo. Endless possibilities for the pedal. Use your imagination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 It's great for muting when on the tuner as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galilee Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 I always accidentally kick the damn pedal and turn my sound right off, so now I make sure it's not assigned at all.... In my own defence, I do sing lead vocal as well, so I can't focus too much attention on controlling effects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 [quote name='Galilee' post='275331' date='Sep 2 2008, 12:01 PM']I always accidentally kick the damn pedal and turn my sound right off, so now I make sure it's not assigned at all.... In my own defence, I do sing lead vocal as well, so I can't focus too much attention on controlling effects.[/quote] Do you do it while you're trying to hit the footswitch? Anyway to turn on the tuner you have to press two footswitches as a time, and then the mute is useful obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galilee Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Yeah I do, I think maybe I just have big feet. As I said, I do kind of blindly kick out at the pedal in order to trigger effects, and I do think that the two switches and the expression pedal are a bit close together. This often results in my suddenly being surprised by the noise (or lack of noise) coming from my bass. I mostly have to select an effect for the song and stick with it throughout, because I haven't got the spare mental capacity to be accurately dancing on the damn pedal box whilst everything else is happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Fair enough, I suppose i'm very used to it. I used to gig with 23 pedals on my board. I had to change to thinner shoes so I could hit one and not the others! You could make a box to raise the pedal, have the two footswitches seperate (very easy) and further apart and away from the exp pedal? I would draw my idea in paint but it's just going to look stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galilee Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 I think that wearing thinner shoes (rather than the steel toe-capped work boots that I currently wear) is probably the answer. Either that or separate effect pedals, but I reckon that would get expensive, what with the amp modelling in the Zoom. How easy is it to split the footswitches then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 take the back off, find the 4 solder points where the footswitches are attached, solder some long wire on, feed them out the batter case, close it back up. Then just make a board however you want, buy a couple of momentary footswitches from maplins, wire it up, (gordon ramsey voice) DONE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galilee Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Noted, ta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fede162162 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 hi,i'm selling a zoom b2.1u if you need it contact me in PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon1964 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 [quote name='BassManKev' post='274431' date='Sep 1 2008, 12:56 PM']the B2 and B2.1U are identical apart from the expression pedal. So if your not gunna use the pedal, then get the B2 stay away from the B1's, they aint the same quality[/quote] Agreed - one other point though. The B2.1U has a DI out. I don't think the B2 or B1 have. Worth taking into account if you are likely to be using it live through the PA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 (edited) [quote name='BassManKev' post='274431' date='Sep 1 2008, 12:56 PM']the B2 and B2.1U are identical apart from the expression pedal. So if your not gunna use the pedal, then get the B2 stay away from the B1's, they aint the same quality[/quote] There's no USB socket on the B2 either so it can't be used as a computer interface for recording. The B2.1u comes with Cubase LE and is great for recording. Edited September 11, 2008 by Sean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 fairy nuff, in that case go for the B2.1u? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobiebass Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 +1 B2.1u great pedal! I keep buying more pedals then realising I really dont need anything other then the zoom. its fantastic. Wish I would have listened to Cheddatom ages ago instead of buying more pedals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Lol! I use the B2.1U in combination with about 20 other pedals to get my tones! To be fair though, if I spent some time with it i'm sure i'd be satisfied with just that and my Barge Concepts VBF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 The Birmingham Reverb ([url="http://www.soundcontrol.co.uk"]still using the Sound Control website[/url]) have the B2.1u in for £49. In the interests of marital bliss and because I've got a V-Amp Pro and an AX3000B and a Zoom RFX-2000, I shan't be buying one, but it may be of interest to others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 blimey thats cheap!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon1964 Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 [quote name='tauzero' post='282759' date='Sep 12 2008, 04:28 PM']The Birmingham Reverb ([url="http://www.soundcontrol.co.uk"]still using the Sound Control website[/url]) have the B2.1u in for £49. In the interests of marital bliss and because I've got a V-Amp Pro and an AX3000B and a Zoom RFX-2000, I shan't be buying one, but it may be of interest to others.[/quote] Blimey - at that price I'm inclined to buy one and whack it straight onto ebay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGit Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Wow! I got mine for a great price at £80 or so .. last time I looked they were over £100 .. Grab it, Rabbit! oh and +1 on the expression pedal + Converse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ou7shined Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 Wow I didn't realise that these were going [b]up[/b] in price. Maybe now's the time to sell mine. It's mint, boxed with everything - only used it for about a month until my GT6 came along. How much should I ask for it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGit Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 [quote name='Ou7shined' post='288412' date='Sep 21 2008, 10:31 AM']Wow I didn't realise that these were going [b]up[/b] in price. Maybe now's the time to sell mine. It's mint, boxed with everything - only used it for about a month until my GT6 came along. How much should I ask for it?[/quote] £49 new in sound control er reverb? I guess you may get £25 ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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