badboy1984 Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 Was wondering what kind of glue do I need to glue the toothpick on the strap button hole? Going to buy a set of strap lock and my Spector bass original strap button screw is bigger then any of the strap lock system screws. Therefore I will need to do the toothpick trick. Not sure what type glue do I need? Quote
gary mac Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 (edited) A decent wood glue is what you want. Evostick do a good one but plenty of other makes are out there. You don't want a contact adhesive. Edited August 10, 2015 by gary mac Quote
chris_b Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 All you need to do is split a matchstick in 2 lengthways and push it in the hole. The screw will hold because of the thread which is now biting into the wood. It's also more easily reversible. Quote
badboy1984 Posted August 10, 2015 Author Posted August 10, 2015 Basically packed the hole with toothpick with glue and then clip off any sticking end right? Then screw the new screws on? Quote
Grangur Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 [quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1439204520' post='2840734'] All you need to do is split a matchstick in 2 lengthways and push it in the hole. The screw will hold because of the thread which is now biting into the wood. It's also more easily reversible. [/quote] Don't use a matchstick. The wood of the matchstick is much softer than a cocktail stick. I use normal DIY-type PVA glue. Quote
badboy1984 Posted August 10, 2015 Author Posted August 10, 2015 Noted. I got the cocktail toothpicks at home. Those will do. Just wish they all use the same type. Quote
ezbass Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 As has been mentioned previously, a PVA wood glue is the way forward. Quote
CH161 Posted August 13, 2015 Posted August 13, 2015 A couple of slivers of maple - from a battered old drumstick for example - one in either side of the hole. You can then pour in some super glue - but really no need. Just trim off the excess sticking out of the hole. Just screw in against the maple slivers and you'll be good to go. Toothpicks are not always strong enough wood - depends on what they're made of - you just need the compression. Bits of maple works. Quote
geoham Posted August 14, 2015 Posted August 14, 2015 I've used a cocktail stick with pound-shop superglue several times. Works a treat, though sure proper wood glue is technically superior. Quote
Slipperydick Posted August 14, 2015 Posted August 14, 2015 (edited) Never used glue for filling holes in wood, just used wood. Matter of interest, I blocked the nozzle in a bottle of PVA with a woodscrew and the screw went rusty in about a week. Anybody ever used glue and then had a problem with the screw going rusty and breaking, or not being able to get the screw out ? Edited August 14, 2015 by Slipperydick Quote
NancyJohnson Posted August 17, 2015 Posted August 17, 2015 [quote name='Slipperydick' timestamp='1439590361' post='2844305'] Never used glue for filling holes in wood, just used wood. Matter of interest, I blocked the nozzle in a bottle of PVA with a woodscrew and the screw went rusty in about a week. Anybody ever used glue and then had a problem with the screw going rusty and breaking, or not being able to get the screw out ? [/quote] Been there. I use a golf tee now! Quote
KiOgon Posted August 17, 2015 Posted August 17, 2015 [quote name='Slipperydick' timestamp='1439590361' post='2844305'] Never used glue for filling holes in wood, just used wood. Matter of interest, I blocked the nozzle in a bottle of PVA with a woodscrew and the screw went rusty in about a week. Anybody ever used glue and then had a problem with the screw going rusty and breaking, or not being able to get the screw out ? [/quote] [quote name='NancyJohnson' timestamp='1439793576' post='2845711'] Been there. I use a golf tee now! [/quote]Brilliant! Does a golf T work on silicone/acrylic sealers too? Quote
RhysP Posted August 17, 2015 Posted August 17, 2015 [quote name='Slipperydick' timestamp='1439590361' post='2844305'] Matter of interest, I blocked the nozzle in a bottle of PVA with a woodscrew and the screw went rusty in about a week. Anybody ever used glue and then had a problem with the screw going rusty and breaking, or not being able to get the screw out ? [/quote] Water based adhesive + metal screw = rusty screw. Quote
neepheid Posted August 17, 2015 Posted August 17, 2015 [quote name='CH161' timestamp='1439509547' post='2843536'] A couple of slivers of maple - from a battered old drumstick for example - one in either side of the hole. You can then pour in some super glue - but really no need. Just trim off the excess sticking out of the hole. Just screw in against the maple slivers and you'll be good to go. Toothpicks are not always strong enough wood - depends on what they're made of - you just need the compression. Bits of maple works. [/quote] We're still struggling to wean people off of matchsticks and you come away with this? You want the moon on a stick you do! Quote
chris_b Posted August 17, 2015 Posted August 17, 2015 There is no argument. Matchsticks are fine. If you fill the hole so that it is small enough so that the screw can exert enough pressure on all sides and the thread bites into the wood sufficiently, then you don't need to use glue to do this job. Quote
Slipperydick Posted August 21, 2015 Posted August 21, 2015 [quote name='RhysP' timestamp='1439799954' post='2845762'] Water based adhesive + metal screw = rusty screw. [/quote] But not [i]that [/i]rusty in such a short time. deffo something corrosive, at least in the builders PVA I used Quote
Big_Stu Posted August 21, 2015 Posted August 21, 2015 (edited) [quote name='Grangur' timestamp='1439206537' post='2840769']Don't use a matchstick.[/quote] Correct [quote name='Grangur' timestamp='1439206537' post='2840769']The wood of the matchstick is much softer than a cocktail stick.[/quote] Also correct [quote name='Grangur' timestamp='1439206537' post='2840769']normal DIY-type PVA glue.[/quote] For the hat-trick! Depending on the size of the hole to fill if you can get three cocktail sticks in, the middle is your automatic centre pilot hole. [quote name='Slipperydick' timestamp='1439590361' post='2844305']Matter of interest, I blocked the nozzle in a bottle of PVA with a woodscrew and the screw went rusty in about a week. Anybody ever used glue and then had a problem with the screw going rusty and breaking, or not being able to get the screw out ?[/quote] Try the cap off an old felt tip pen, you even get the "click" shut seal if you find the right sized pen. Edited August 21, 2015 by Big_Stu Quote
Grangur Posted August 22, 2015 Posted August 22, 2015 [quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1439808429' post='2845853'] There is no argument. Matchsticks are fine. If you fill the hole so that it is small enough so that the screw can exert enough pressure on all sides and the thread bites into the wood sufficiently, then you don't need to use glue to do this job. [/quote] Matchsticks will certainly work for a while. But due to the softness of the wood. It may break up over a time. Cocktail-sticks will give a long-term fix. Quote
CH161 Posted August 23, 2015 Posted August 23, 2015 [quote name='neepheid' timestamp='1439806883' post='2845839'] We're still struggling to wean people off of matchsticks and you come away with this? You want the moon on a stick you do! [/quote] Haha...this is the thread that keeps on giving! The real test is if the screw remains firm under pressure, on the end of a strap moving around on stage! I certainly wouldn't use matchsticks. Maple bits for me - I was given that tip by a very busy professional guitar tech. If his boss's old guitar fell off the strap on stage it would certainly make the news! Quote
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