spectoremg Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 https://www.gumtree.com/p/guitar-instrument/1973-ideal-bass-guitar/1130786933 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer of the Bass Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I wonder if the description of it being a one-off custom job for a particular player may be an invention. I've seen Ideal as another brand applied to similar instruments and accessories to the ones which come labelled as Guyatone, Kent, etc., so I'd guess it's just another importers badge on a fairly standard Japanese instrument of that period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 £500 is hardly ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoying Twit Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I think this bass is much more realistically priced with a £10 starting price. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/A-NICE-VINTAGE-KAY-ELECTRIC-BASS-GUITAR-c1968-MODEL-KEB-130-/301723626515?hash=item4640212c13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Re the "Ideal" - it's the usual make-up-some-crap-because-no one-knows-any-different rubbish you see with so many old MIJs. The bass is a re-badged Teisco, from probably around 1968 or '69 by the looks, "Ideal" will be some generic importer/catalogue brand, it looks in nice condition for its age, if everything works properly and it plays OK it should be good for about £200 tops. In the Real World, that would be. Jon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer of the Bass Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 The old Ideal brand soundhole pickups have a bit of a cult following among Greek bouzouki players apparently, even though they're guitar pickups. I've no idea if that's the same Ideal brand as this one or entirely coincidental, but I suppose it could have been imported by the same distributor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoying Twit Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 [quote name='Bassassin' timestamp='1440613314' post='2852455'] Re the "Ideal" - it's the usual make-up-some-crap-because-no one-knows-any-different rubbish you see with so many old MIJs. The bass is a re-badged Teisco, from probably around 1968 or '69 by the looks, "Ideal" will be some generic importer/catalogue brand, it looks in nice condition for its age, if everything works properly and it plays OK it should be good for about £200 tops. In the Real World, that would be. Jon. [/quote] I'm surprised that you value it as high as £200. NB: I'm not doubting you, just expressing my surprise that it's worth that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 [quote name='Annoying Twit' timestamp='1440696801' post='2853102'] I'm surprised that you value it as high as £200. NB: I'm not doubting you, just expressing my surprise that it's worth that much. [/quote] On reflection that might be a bit optimistic. I tend to go on what I'd hope to get if I was selling in a 99p start auction, and it would probably need its original bridge cover & a Teisco logo to get anywhere near that. After a second look, I suspect that in the flesh it's a bit more knocked-about than the pics suggest, too. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 I thought ideal made kids toys , in that era. Tesco was going through a torrid time then . Looks like a poor mans Kay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 (edited) [quote name='Bassassin' timestamp='1440697455' post='2853111'] On reflection that might be a bit optimistic. I tend to go on what I'd hope to get if I was selling in a 99p start auction, and it would probably need its original bridge cover & a Teisco logo to get anywhere near that. After a second look, I suspect that in the flesh it's a bit more knocked-about than the pics suggest, too. J. [/quote] Jon - to go slightly OT for a bit. Do you know if the Teisco brand has been revived in Japan recently? There's been a few rather tasty looking instruments on the Ishibashi Ubox over the last 12 months with very reasonable prices and in AFAICS pretty good condition for something made in the 60s. Any ideas? Edited August 27, 2015 by BigRedX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 [quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1440704043' post='2853182'] Jon - to go slightly OT for a bit. Do you know if the Teisco brand has been revived in Japan recently? There's been a few rather tasty looking instruments on the Ishibashi Ubox over the last 12 months with very reasonable prices and in AFAICS pretty good condition for something made in the 60s. Any ideas? [/quote] Yes, don't know a lot about them but there have been reissued Teisco "classics" (Del Rey, Spectrum etc) around for a few years now. I'd guess Japanese market-exclusive, hence them turning up on Ishibashi. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 [quote name='Bassassin' timestamp='1440720185' post='2853360'] Yes, don't know a lot about them but there have been reissued Teisco "classics" (Del Rey, Spectrum etc) around for a few years now. I'd guess Japanese market-exclusive, hence them turning up on Ishibashi. J. [/quote] Thanks Jon. So I'm not looking at bargain vintage instruments then. They do look pretty authentic though. I do fancy a Spectrum... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoying Twit Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Dare I say it that some of these reissues might be far superior instruments to the originals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 You're setting the bar pretty low ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoying Twit Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 [quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1440773967' post='2853777'] You're setting the bar pretty low ... [/quote] I have seen some old Teisco and similar instruments which were unbelievably off-putting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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